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Westministenders: Talks Walk Out?

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RedToothBrush · 03/10/2018 22:39

We are now on the countdown to whether we get a backstop Withdrawal Deal. May is hoping to get the EU to backdown on this saying that we will stay in the customs union until a deal is agreed on NI. That would mean come 29th March, we'd have no transistion period, but we'd still have a hard border in NI because we were out of the single market. And if the EU don't agree to it we are into the chances of accidental Brexit being sky high. The only way out would be revoking a50. May has hinted that if Tory MPs don't give her support we could end up with no brexit at all - whether she means revoking a50 or Beano isn't clear.

So onward to 18th October...

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1tisILeClerc · 09/10/2018 16:42

You might have thought that the article in the Politico would be treated like someone saying 'your skirt is held up in your underwear' sort of moment and some of the embarrassing comments that have been made over the last 2 years or more would have been suppressed, at least by cabinet ministers.
On the other hand it seems the Government don't give a damn.
When you jump out of an aeroplane you usually have some sort of plan, like something squashy to land on, or a parachute. Does a plan actually exist?

DGRossetti · 09/10/2018 16:44
Myrnafoy · 09/10/2018 16:45

Nothing to do directly with Brexit but did anybody see the guardian headline about a potential relaxation of rules regarding
fracking ? Up until now if tremors were detected, operations had to stop to enable safety checks to be performed. A government minister I think has reportedly said that now we are more ‘experienced’ Confused in carrying it out
regulations don’t have to be as stringent......

DGRossetti · 09/10/2018 16:48

Meanwhile, University of Worcester wins it's case against an FOI request to disclose details of lectures and lecturers

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/university-of-worcester-wins-case-after-conservative-mp-chris-heaton-harris-demands-details-of-brexit-lecturers-1-5729663

DGRossetti · 09/10/2018 16:50

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45795833

1tisILeClerc · 09/10/2018 16:51

Not seen that bit about relaxing measures.
I think that to show how environmentally friendly and inconspicuous Fracking is, they should set up a test site on Parliament green (the bit where ministers waffle (sorry give serious interviews) outside parliament. When they have proven it is so good, the might be able to look elsewhere. Parliament wants fracking, they can have it on their doorstep.
There must be something under there even if it is water, gas or unicorn shit.

10degreestostarboard · 09/10/2018 16:59

brexit deniers.... fracking deniers....

:)

1tisILeClerc · 09/10/2018 17:06

Enter the vacuous one, stage left.

Myrnafoy · 09/10/2018 17:10

Bonfire of environmental regulations already starting Wink

ShinyElena · 09/10/2018 17:17

I have just seen Hillary Clinton's thoughts on Europe: www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/09/hillary-clinton-criticises-tory-meps-over-failure-to-censure-hungary
It has made me cry. Where did we take a wrong turn? Why is this intelligent, compassionate, thoughtful woman not the leader of the free world?!

woman11017 · 09/10/2018 17:22

Sturgeon and Clinton have been a credit to us today. Cadwalladr is a heroine. Gina Miller is stupendous. Anne Soubry was great at shutting down drunken right wing morons at the weekend.
Wonderful women. Smile

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2018 17:24

Back from my shopping!

Anyway, my point was that Tesco have made a commerical decision that there is a demand / marketing opportunity for a bulk buy section in at least some of their stores. And its due to be in place for this coming weekend.

Tesco generally do their buying and planning to a fine art, based on events and weather forecasting. They try and think of EVERYTHING that might drive sales.

With the Withdrawal due to be wrapped up next week (and its clearly not going to be) its hard to avoid the idea that Tesco don't have it on their radar.

It therefore doesn't seem like a jump to say that Tesco are gambling on an event which leads to a higher than normal demand for bulk buying and if it is that, it wouldn't be surprising if Tesco are also hoping to fuel that feel and cash in on any growing sense of panic too. Plus in terms of planning, if encouraging and stimulate bulk buying now, that might help to lessen the effects of stockpiling behaviour in a few months time - or allow them to use shelf space for other items in a couple of months, by flooding the market on certain items now and counting on a drop in demand on those items at the same time there is a spike in demand for other items.

So yes I'm sure that Tesco are jumping on the bangwagon but they can only do that, if there is an underlying desire to bulk buy and people think its worth putting their money up front to do so. And you'd have to assume that Tesco have never thought that doing so was a worthwhile venture in the past.

Either way, that means lots of people are either bulk buying already, Tesco think they will start bulk buying soon or Tesco think they can gently pursuade some people to bulk buy with financial incentive of thinking they are getting a good bargin.

Its very, very interesting to see, and slightly anxiety producing (which of course leads to people psychologically thinking they need to bulk buy items they wouldn't otherwise too by deliberately trying to cash in on this anxiety).

I wonder if other companies will do things like this?

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lonelyplanetmum · 09/10/2018 17:27

Bonfire of environmental regulations already starting

And food regs to Follow....

Has this been linked From
Business insider ...In the US, food producers adhere to a "Defects Levels Handbook," which sets out the maximum number of foreign bodies like maggots, insect fragments and mould that can be in food products before they are put on the market.

For example, US producers are allowed to include up to 30 insect fragments in a 100-gram jar of peanut butter; as well as 11 rodent hairs in a 25-gram container of paprika; or 3 milligrams of mammalian excreta (typically rat or mouse excrement) per each pound of ginger.

In the EU there are no allowable limits for foreign bodies in food products.

"MPs have told Business Insider they are worried that a UK-US trade deal designed by Brexiteers could open the floodgates to contaminated food."

Vote leave to take back control of allowing a few rat hairs in your noodles.

At least maggots are a protein source. Hope disgraced former defence secretary Fox's going to eat all this when he achieves his long desired switch to US produce.

DGRossetti · 09/10/2018 17:35

Tesco generally do their buying and planning to a fine art, based on events and weather forecasting. They try and think of EVERYTHING that might drive sales.

And such planning is done months in advance. (Nothing more sad than the British weather making a laughing stock of their barbecue range coming while it's snowing ....).

The analogy of turning an oil tanker ... (Or for those of us of a certain age, the school heating schedule) resounds.

DGRossetti · 09/10/2018 17:36

btw, no point in fracking in Westminster to make a point. Try Somerset.

woman11017 · 09/10/2018 17:40

'Best before' labels going on pre packed fruit and veg. No one gets sick from eating rotten fruit and veg, fortunately. Hmm

Motheroffourdragons · 09/10/2018 17:43

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MyBrexitGoesOnHoliday · 09/10/2018 17:47

www.ft.com/content/641865e0-cb0f-11e8-9fe5-24ad351828ab

May seeks frictionless trade in return for deal on Irish border
Is it TM blinking first there?

BigChocFrenzy · 09/10/2018 17:49

imo, Calling it "resilience" is deliberate planning to blame the victims who become unemployed, homeless ... or worse

DGRossetti · 09/10/2018 17:50

May seeks frictionless trade in return for deal on Irish border

Arlene, Arlene!, Arlene!!, Ar-lene!! I'm begging of you please don't wreck my plan.

Motheroffourdragons · 09/10/2018 17:52

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BigChocFrenzy · 09/10/2018 17:56

YUUUUUKKK ! 🤮
Maggots and rodent hairs ... Brexiters can put those in their shiny new blue passports for a sandwich

If that happens, I'd never set foot in the UK again, for fear of what might be in the food chain
(I'd not planned to visit the US again anyway, after finding in 1998 that my business conference was in a 3rd world city)

BigChocFrenzy · 09/10/2018 17:57

Still the NI backstop afaik

ShinyElena · 09/10/2018 18:02

I have to agree with Tom Peck from the Independent that the end of the world happens before we reach an agreement on Brexit. www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-brexit-climate-disaster-a8574186.html

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