Westministenders: Gin O'Clock

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After disaster after Salzberg and a very predictable humilation over the Chequers Deal which the ERG reject, moderate Brexiteers reject, Remainers reject and the EU reject....

May does a press conference...

...which is delayed by a power shortage inside No. 10.

And....

Just watching the Keir Starmer standing ovation at conference for remain being an option. Brilliant.

Deutsche Bank warned over money-laundering as auditor appointed

www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/24/watchdog-orders-money-laundering-auditor-to-oversee-deutsche-bank?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

I knew that Deutsche has had issues for some time relating to money laundering. Interesting timing.

Who believes in coincedence?

Wasn't there something connecting Deutsche with Trump???
www.newsweek.com/2017/12/29/donald-trump-russia-secret-deutsche-bank-753780.html
Is Donald Trump’s Dark Russian Secret Hiding in Deutsche Bank’s Vaults?

And lots of links between Malta, Trump, Russia, Panama Papers just generally flying about at the moment...

You've got about three series of The Bodyguard in there.

Funny eh?

From 4th September.
www.dw.com/en/dutch-bank-ing-pays-fine-to-settle-criminal-investigation/a-45342322
Dutch bank ING pays fine to settle criminal investigation

Dutch banking group ING has agreed to pay a fine following criminal investigations by prosecutors. The lender had been confronted with allegations of money laundering in the Netherlands.

You'd be mistaken for thinking a Great Big Bombshell had the potential, to break widewide with regard to money laundering, in the next few months.

Wishful thinking by German industry, that reality is dawning on the British? "Die Realität frisst sich durch", konstatierte Lang. I like the way he describes it as you would chemicals gradually eating their way through metal.

Danske
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-24/danske-money-laundering-scandal-leads-to-eu-probe-of-supervisors
Finland
www.reuters.com/article/us-finland-moneylaundering/finland-holds-russian-estonian-in-money-laundering-probe-idUSKCN1M5271?il=0

I read the headline on that scorpion article and assumed it was one of Williamson's (possibly wrong Gavin?) pets

I thought Abromovich got residency in Israel in the end ?

I thought the scorpion was just a delegate who had arrived early

Theresa May says no-deal Brexit is better than Canada-style free trade agreement

because of NI
However, the EU - and everyone except May - reject her bloody Chequers.
They have proposed a CETA-type deal, with special status for NI

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-canada-free-trade-deal-agreement-theresa-may-break-up-united-kingdom-a8554741.html

bigchoc you demon. Very funny.

EU prepared to offer free trade - i.e. no tariffs -
but not frictionless - there will be some NTBs (Non Tariff Barriers)

I presume the RoI - and hence the EU - will still imsist on the NI backstop

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1M524K?

Abramovich did. He can enter the UK for 6 months on it. But he can't work on his Israeli passport.

@J_amesp
Just a suggestion...if you have time you should read through this. It’s the legislation being revoked so far under the withdrawal bill. Hat tip @JasonJHunter for spotting this. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5b477933e5274a023bc9d347/Annex_B.pdf …

@alanbell_libsol
that one mostly is a tidyup exercise. There are important things being given away on the others as described here westbrit.ie/whos-plutonium-is-it-anyway/ …

when you read it

you can see the process here beta.parliament.uk/procedures/iCdMN1MW … and you can write to the sifting committee if you want to attempt to influence them to flip something over to the affirmative track

Matthew Goodwin @GoodwinMJ

% of British adults who "have not heard of them"

Barry Gardiner = 87%
Angela Rayner = 66%
Keir Starmer = 58%
John McDonnell = 50%
Tom Watson = 49%
Emily Thornberry = 49%
Shami Chakrabarti = 47%

Never overestimate how much ppl tune in

YouGov Sep19
#LabConf2018 #Lab2018

As I sit here in Twitter Land, I find it rather sobering that 47% of LABOUR voters have not heard of John McDonnell, 46% have not heard of Tom Watson, 56% have not heard of Keir Starmer, 48% of Shami Chakrabarti and 80% have not heard of Barry Gardiner

I'd also like a sit down with the 3% of 18-24 year olds who claim to have never heard of Jeremy Corbyn

Christ that’s depressing. And yet we were entrusted something as complicated as the decision on whether to retain EU membership.

*with

Took us 2.5 hours to do 58 miles on M25 last Saturday mother, which is normal now. . Commuting by train to London, from our town, is so unreliable, one can barely rely on which town or line one will return on. London and Outer London transport does not work. Now.

It was bad in 2010. But not like this.

Swedish prime minister Stefan Lofven ousted after losing no-confidence vote
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/swedish-prime-minister-stefan-lofven-ousted-no-confidence-vote-coalition-talks-a8553956.html

Swedish businesses have spoken out en masse against a co alition involving the SD.

Director of the Food and Drink Federation, Ian Wright, spelling out the consequences of a no deal on Farming Today.
Waiting without bated breath for a similar interview on Today programme.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qj8q
Think I might start an AIBU

Hello Born !

That’s a good idea.what would it be AIBU to think that the FDF might know what they’re talking about?

You couldn’t get better industry specialist knowledge than the Food and Drink federation. They have been giving stark warnings over a year that a 'no-deal' Brexit is a grisly prospect. They've initiated emergency meetings with the govt, their initiative not the govts as I understand it?

It is a certainty that there will be a severe impact on UK food and drink supplies and trade from March 2019.

There will be:

•chaos at the ports
•serious disruption to food supplies
•rising consumer prices here
•devastation for UK exports with tariffs making many products uncompetitive threatening more than £13bn of annual exports.

I’m sure you’ve seen this
http://www.fdf.org.uk/news.aspx?article=8062

But why does no one listen? It is beyond belief that millions embraced one sentence of pure fiction on a bloody bus. Yet this substantiated factual clear specific warning is ignored.

Is it "% of British adults who "have not heard of them" or % of LABOUR voters? Which does he mean?

I'm getting really fed up with how people can be flippant with language. It makes it difficult to hold them to account properly.

It still grates when I hear people talking about what gender their baby is, as if babies can have a gender but not sex.

Wow I've woken up grumpy today!

I will say thanks to the usual suspects for keeping these threads going. Since the summer recess the news has gone from normal shit to massive piles of elephant diarrhoea (sp?) so thanks for continuing to turn up and make me think.

Labour party conference has pr9ved interesting so far. If only they could be as rousing when not playing to the gallery.

I think it's all voters as follows with Labour voters in brackets:

Barry Gardiner = 87% (80%)
Angela Rayner = 66%
Keir Starmer = 58% (48%)
John McDonnell = 50% (47%)
Tom Watson = 49% (46%)
Emily Thornberry = 49%
Shami Chakrabarti = 47% (48%)

Not sure about Angela and Emily.Although I'll admit I do sometimes need to check who has the more minor roles in the shadow cabinet.

Motheroffourdragons I would never, never drive into London but the problem now is that the alternatives are getting worse and worse. Underground is still mostly fine but suburban train services are appalling. The line I use (to Cambridge) has basically collapsed since the timetable changes in May. It used to take me a reliable 50 minutes to get from London to my company's HO. Now I'm lucky if it takes less than 1h15, trains don't turn up, they run late, they stop inexplicably. Frustrating if you're going to meetings, but unbearable if you are a regular commuter.