Westminstenders: Operation Yellowhammer 1q

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Boris Johnson is clearing the decks for a leadership challenge.

I guess that means that the Brexit we get all depends on what George, Michael and Boris decide over lunch and how good Operation Yellowhammer is.

Horses are still sold in Guineas at auction , I think it works out at £1.05 ?

DG The notice I found on EU travel just talked about passports, not visas

www.gov.uk/government/publications/travelling-to-the-eu-with-a-uk-passport-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/travelling-to-the-eu-with-a-uk-passport-if-theres-no-brexit-deal

However, the Uk would be a 3rd country, so this EU info for non-EU citizens says you may need a visa for some countries

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-nationals/index_en.htm

After Brexit, UK citizerns would have to follow the rules for non-EU visitors in the particular country they are visiting,
as there is no standard EU rule for non-EU visitors.
Since the UK will be at Year Zero, without any deals that other non-EU countries have, I would assume no opt-outs apply.

I expect you would definitely need a visa or other official permission to stay over 3 months anywhere, or if you wanted to work there at all.

Bidet for Berxit

Very childish thought just popped into my head... B Day sounds like bidet

So we need to read those notices at the same time as processing the changes that the government has made to UK passport renewals ...

www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/passports-brexit-stealth-change-renewal-rules-martin-lewis-a8535346.html

Millions of travellers are to be hit by an unannounced policy change on passport renewals.

Until now, the Passport Office has granted up to nine months of extra validity for British passports renewed ahead of the expiry date.

A traveller whose passport is due to expire on 1 June 2019 could renew on 1 September 2018 and get a new document valid until 1 June 2029.

But starting this week, the long-established practice of crediting a new passport with unexpired time from the old passport has been dropped.

The change was uncovered by the Money Saving Expert website after multiple users reported they had been “short-changed” when renewing their passports.

The founder, Martin Lewis, told BBC Radio 5 Live: “We got contacted by a number of our users saying they renewed their passports in the last couple of days, they had many months remaining, and those months were not added on their new passports.”

He said that the customer service team at the Passport Office had told researchers that the policy had changed on Monday 10 September.

“To have done this without giving anyone any notice isn’t right and isn’t fair,” said Mr Lewis.

“It’s really not the way that governments should be operating on something as important as your passport. People are going to feel somewhat duped by this.”

(contd)

Yes, they kept that quiet, didn't they ? Any Brexiteers care to comment ?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45512152

UK drivers may have to get an international driving permit if they want to drive in European countries after a no-deal Brexit.

The government says that after March 2019 "your driving licence may no longer be valid by itself" in the EU, in its latest no-deal planning papers.

It also warns that Britons travelling to the EU may need to make sure their passports have six months left to run.

(contd).

I popped to the post office and came back to 29 emails from HMG with tech notices. Nothing much of substance from what I have seen.
If driving from England through France to somewhere else you will probably need 2 permits, one for each EU country. That'll be handy!

I spotted the 'B' idet connection a while ago but was too modest.

So in summary, today we have another pile of near useless 'tech notes' and various politicians insulting either the EU or USA or wherever, all of whom will take a firm stance on deals with the UK.
Brilliant!

How did it go Mrs8?

Still no mention of Brexit on the BBC. Considering a celebrity tripping up in the street constitutes 'news' these days why is there nothing apart from 'driving licenses might not be valid' on the BBC website?
Even the business page just has Gordon Brown's comments from a day or so ago.

I have read the technical notices. Most of them can be summarised as whatever. We will introduce new rules as and when we see fit. The mobile roaming one even regers to the Implementation Period. Hate to break this but there is no Implementation Period for crashing out. [facepalm]

(bear with me) I see that following the impression that no-protest zones outside abortion clinics seemed "a done deal" (from the reporting), it's now not going to happen. With some people (on MN) wondering if the DUP had a hand ?

www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/13/brexit_notice_data_protection_adequacy_scc/

The UK government has told companies to start drawing up standard contractural clauses for data transfers in case of a no-deal Brexit.

The warning comes in latest batch of technical notices released to allow organisations to prepare for the event it doesn't manage to negotiate exit terms with the European Union before March 2019.

In the notice on data protection, the government said that although it would greenlight the transfer of UK data to other member states, there were no such guarantees in reverse.

(contd)

and from that story ... the key to it all

^However, the technical notice acknowledged this is the reality in the case of a no-deal scenario. It aims to make the first move by saying it will recognise the two systems as aligned, but has accepted the EU won't do the same

I made the comment months ago that the UK parliament can pass all the laws it likes, but the EU isn't bound by them. This is the first time I have seen HMG actually (albeit tangentially) admit that.

An awful lot of the Brexiteer bluster has been "we'll just pass a law" ... however this is where that pipedream meets the pavement.

Brilliant, I bet you get busy as time goes on.

@DGRossetti - we have fully implemented revised EU data protection law into UK law. At worst we need to be deemed "adequate " for handling personal data by the EU. Even a Remainer like me would say it is highly likely we would be deemed adequate if our law matches exactly the new EU data protection law.

Mrs8 Great work although I agree it’s a shame that it’s needed. You should let JRM know so that he can feel uplifted

From The Sun’s Deputy Political Editor:

steve hawkes‏ Verified account @steve_hawkes

Sacre Bleu! Nathalie Loiseau says "that's correct" The Eurostar's will stop and the planes will be grounded if there's No Deal
6:33 AM - 13 Sep 2018

steve hawkes ‏Verified account @steve_hawkes

France’s Europe Minister Nathalie Loiseau repeats that the EU27 are united and they won’t bend the rules just because one state wants to leave. But she says goodwill is there. “We are trying to divorce without hurting the kids.”
5:23 AM - 13 Sep 2018

@DGRossetti - we have fully implemented revised EU data protection law into UK law. At worst we need to be deemed "adequate " for handling personal data by the EU. Even a Remainer like me would say it is highly likely we would be deemed adequate if our law matches exactly the new EU data protection law.

The thing is it has to stay the same. Only without the UK having any say in it anymore. Barnier has already warned HMG that there's no "special place" for the UK post Brexit. So at some point, either the UK is going to have to diverge from the EU - and fall out. Or simply commit to staying in lockstep forever.

(We'll ignore the ludicrous 3rd option that UK data protection laws with actually go further than the EUs, because that is never going to happen).

Also, even if the UKs immediate post-Brexit data laws are the same as pre-Brexit, the fact of the UK being a third country means there will have to be a mechanism to verify the adequacy - exactly as the same for any other 3rd country ?