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Westminstenders: Operation Yellowhammer 1q

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RedToothBrush · 09/09/2018 11:11

Boris Johnson is clearing the decks for a leadership challenge.

I guess that means that the Brexit we get all depends on what George, Michael and Boris decide over lunch and how good Operation Yellowhammer is.

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DGRossetti · 11/09/2018 10:16

If you think of how ignorant Theresa May and Karen Bradley are of the history of part of our own country, and seem proud of the fact too, do you wonder that they don't know the first thing about WW2 massacres?

No one can know everything.

That said, I'm afraid that my opinion of our leaders is so low that I imagine when they learn of those massacres (by the way, that wasn't a definitive list. Just the ones I remember before throwing up) they'll just mouth some patronising soundbite which gives away their view that something about "now" makes it different to "then."

"Can't happen here" is a phrase which has always terrified me. It's one of the few bones of contention my DF had with my DM, when she said that, or something like that. (" We're not like that..", "The English aren't like that ..."). At the heart of the UKIP mastabatory fantasy that is Blighty is a corrosive sense of superiority over any other race or country. The Germans didn't succumb to Nazism because they were German, but because they were human. And it would be richly cosmically ironic if it's the trivialising and othering of the Nazis that actually led to their creed taking hold in Britain.

Taking of his turban they say 'Is this man a Jew '.
Coz we're working for the clampdown.
They put up a poster saying 'HE EARNS MORE THAN YOU !';
Working for the clampdown.

(where's The Clash for our childrens generation ?)

lonelyplanetmum · 11/09/2018 10:33

here we will have a 17 mile queue of truckers waiting for the Portaloo that the Gov are installing

'Here ' being in the garden paradise of Kent. My passionately Leave voting FIL lives very, very near that queue. I'm not even sure what route we can take when visiting to avoid the queue.

" you don't know what you've got
'till it's gone
they paved paradise
and put up a parking lot."

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2018 10:38

Good news:

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cadburys-no-deal-brexit-chocolate-stockpiles-biscuits-mondelez-a8532276.html?amp&__twitter_impression=TRUE
Cadbury owner Mondelez stockpiling chocolate and biscuits to prepare for no-deal Brexit

Bad news: it's only as good as the shelf life...

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RedToothBrush · 11/09/2018 10:40

where's The Clash for our childrens generation ?

Too busy rebranding Stalinism.

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Mrsr8 · 11/09/2018 10:45

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RedToothBrush · 11/09/2018 10:50

Dan Bloom @danbloom1
Tory minister Chloe Smith just said the 340 voters turned away (in 5 areas) for not having ID this year were a “very small number”, at 0.14%.

Yet she claims the 28 voters in the ENTIRE COUNTRY suspected of fraud in 2017 - 0.000063% - show an “obvious weakness in our democracy".

Chloe Smith getting a bashing from Tory MPs over voter ID.

Commons committee chairman Bernard Jenkin: "Isn’t this a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut?"

David Jones: "That is a very large number of people who otherwise would have been voting."

SNP's Ronnie Cowan: "It can affect the outcome of an election."

(I should mention the 28 claims in 2017 were alleged cases of in-person fraud, the type this pilot is designed to contact, not postal vote fraud.)

With seemingly no irony, minister Chloe Smith snaps: "Either you care about small numbers or you don’t. Society should worry about small numbers either way, right? And therefore we should worry about any crime that has small numbers being committed."

Asked about the other 'small number' of 340 ID-less people who didn't vote, however, she says: "I think it is legitimate to ask the question of otherwise, should they have been voting. We have the crime in this country of electoral fraud."

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1tisILeClerc · 11/09/2018 10:55

@DGR
I had thought of Babi Yar which is in Kiev. I read some strange books when I was at school. The name 'stuck' as it was horrific and it is a track on an ELP album. (Pictures at an exhibition). I went to a crater in Uganda where there had been mass slaughter. It was eerily silent, unlike the surrounding area. It was if the birds and other animals understood the horror of the place.
I suppose an 'upside' for the dear inhabitants of Kent is extra fertiliser for the gardens.

1tisILeClerc · 11/09/2018 10:56

@Mrsr8
Not only wouldn't but can't, it's too greasy.

CardinalSin · 11/09/2018 10:57

"We have the crime in this country of electoral fraud."

Oh, the irony...

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1tisILeClerc · 11/09/2018 11:21

@Mrsr8
As sovereign owner of your phone you have the right to switch aurocorrect off. There is no EU directive saying you have to have it on.

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Peregrina · 11/09/2018 11:29

Don't the EU make the rules? Only when the Tories like to claim the credit for them.

Peregrina · 11/09/2018 11:35

Should have said, Not when the Tories like to claim the credit for them. Remember the EU's place is in the wrong, the Tories are always right.

woman11017 · 11/09/2018 11:36

@faisalislam
NEW - Govt internal aviation No Deal preps revealed in new #Brexitforensics

  • Grayling has just written to all 27 EU member states to do bilateral No Deal deals to keep planes flying as now
  • Internal CAA documents says No Deal/ leaving EASA would mean reissuing pilots licenses
1tisILeClerc · 11/09/2018 11:39

I have mine switched off and the police haven't been round and forced me to put it on.....yet.
Not the same as some Chinese phones being 'hard wired' to transfer data back to China in apps that can't be overridden.
Mind you Google track everybody all the time as well.

1tisILeClerc · 11/09/2018 11:43

@woman.
Sadly some on this thread (it's predecessor) knew the need for this 2 or more years ago.
Can I be an official from somewhere in Europe to tell Mr Grayling to lick my boots please?

woman11017 · 11/09/2018 11:56

Next thread title could be "we did say....." James Patrick is currently imploding. Sad
It's sweet the way he writes to the nations individually, though, bless. Hmm

topcat1980 · 11/09/2018 12:04

From the ERG statement ahead of their conference:

"Over the last 25 years exports to the EU from the four leading non-EU states have grown four times faster than exports from the UK under the single market. This fact alone shows why we have nothing to fear from trading on WTO terms. It has succeeded in the past and offers exciting opportunities for the future. Let Brexit mean Brexit and let us flourish under the auspices of the WTO.”

No other country trades under WTO rules and with most of these countries there are trade agreements from the EU.

topcat1980 · 11/09/2018 12:06

Steve Baker says "most economists are “useless”. But these economists aren’t because their analysis is based in reality"

So only economists who agree with Brexiteers aren't useless

Fuck me, this is shocking

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woman11017 · 11/09/2018 12:07
Westminstenders: Operation Yellowhammer 1q
topcat1980 · 11/09/2018 12:09

There was nothing factual about that at all!

What a joke

woman11017 · 11/09/2018 12:10

topcat yes it is. Sad

topcat1980 · 11/09/2018 12:13

Its just so shocking get they get away with points like, only economists whoa gree with me are any good.

I'll do a take down of Minford when I get a chance.