Have your frienships and family relationships suffered as a result of Brexit?

[Wormzy]

Just that, really. If friends and/ or family members have clearly voted differently to you, has it changed the way you see them or interact with them? Have friendships broken down?

I haven't been able to vote, but the outcome of the vote affects me disproportionately. Family members have voted Leave. There have been arguments, also between friends, some ended in loss of contact.

I wonder how the Brexit vote has affected others on here?

What we're saying doesn't fit your narrative so we must be making it up? Right. I don't have a 'narrative' Sorry to disappoint.

derxa ok you have no narrative, no axe to grind. Why then do you assume posters are making these stories about racist relatives and friends up? Posters clearly find it upsetting and 'the straw that broke the camel's back' in terms of their relationships.

However, you think that multiple posters are coming on to share similar made up stories because.......

moussemoose
Especially when there's a few of us really clearly staying 'some people I know voted leave and it's just a difference of opinion. However I'm actually quite surprised at...'

My relative will tell me about the awesome mosque in the local more multicultural town and how amazing it is and all the charity and then days later speak about how 'the world's gone politically correct because nobody can say anything to challenge Muslims. It's almost like people are scared to ask questions about the burqa'.

They've always had reservations about the position of women in Islam. I have zero issue with that; it's a debate to be had. But the sudden prefacing with sound bites out the mouth of farrage and this silly idea that nobody can criticise Muslims was a shock. It was like there's a disconnect between the rational person with concerns about immigration who is lovely to everyone and very inclusive and then this ridiculojs person who's clearly heard their rational concerns tied to other hysterical anti immigrant nonsense and occasionally sounds like a conspiracy theorist.

Hardly 'surprise racist' claims.

However, you think that multiple posters are coming on to share similar made up stories because....... I've no idea. I don't discuss Brexit with anyone except my family. One exception is one Brexiteer I know vaguely. Life's too short.

I don't discuss Brexit with anyone except my family
That's your circle.

In my circle of friends we do chat about politics and current affairs (as well as other things obviously)

Is it so hard to believe that other social circles might have different topics of conversation?

derxa you don't discuss Brexit with anyone apart from your family but you know all these other posters are lying?

MaisyPops posts a clearly well thought out but emotional post about her family and the dilemma she faces when the rational person she knows comes out with racist language.

Real issues brought to the surface by Brexit but you know she is lying? You seem to have a lot invested in convincing yourself other posters are telling lies.

Also, "life is too short"to discuss Brexit and politics God save me from this attitude. Life is politics, tax, jobs, wars, benefits, the environment all are political issues that impact on your life.

I don't discuss Brexit with anyone except my family.

Ha. What if your family are closet racists who have only been pretending to tolerate your DP and children all this time, and are now posting on fb, thrice daily, about how muslims should all be sent home. DP is cockney by the accurate definition of “born by the sound of Bow bells”. Where should he be sent to? Stoke Newington?

I'm fortunate in that none of my friends and family voted Leave (and yes, we do talk politics regularly ) - but that's probably related to the fact that I live in Scotland (in an area which voted 70% Remain ) and am myself an immigrant (albeit when I was 3 ) from a Commonwealth country.

However at the weekend I met my cousin for the 1st time in 30 years, along with her (English) boyfriend. She is now living in England and her boyfriend admitted to voting Leave because at the time she was going through hell to get a partner visa to be able to stay in the country and work. He voted Leave hoping that the UK would then make it easier for people from Commonwealth countries to come here. He said it was partly a protest vote for the difficulty they were experiencing as a couple - and that he never expected Leave to win. He acknowledged that he was naive about the economic impact on the UK. We didn't fall out as the Commonwealth immigrants argument is one I can understand - even if the UK Government (of either colour) was never going to really address it (viz. May's visit to India after the Referendum and her refusal to move on visa restrictions).

When this all goes to shit - when, not if - I will have a hard time being civil to anyone I know who voted Leave.
It'll be sort of funny watching how many people deny voting Leave. #happytotakecreditnotblame

It'll be sort of funny watching how many people deny voting Leave.

Maybe there are precedents ?

www.quora.com/Did-anyone-who-voted-for-Richard-Nixon-admit-that-they-had-made-a-mistake-after-he-resigned

Many people voted for Nixon because they were afraid. Riots and the growing strength of the left contributed to this. They believed black militants were going to attack them and the Communist were taking over. Nixon was viewed as a “safe way out”. No one really liked him. He had a gruff and off putting manner that didn’t lend itself to a personality cult. There were no “Nixonites”. It was easy for many to abandon him when things got rough. His supporters started spouting the familiar refrains of blaming the democrats and press. It was hard for many to admit they’d been fooled and that Nixon had stolen the elections with lies, backroom deals, and dirty tricks. I never heard anyone apologize from being so weak and gullible. To understand the times one has to only look around them now. Immigrant terrorist and criminals are swarming over our borders, killing, raping, and threatening our way of life. Trump has made backroom deals with Putin to win the election. Like Nixon, he’s immediately began setting up an “Imperial Presidency”, firing and replacing troublesome civil servants, gagging the bureaucracy, creating his own private police force.

Colleagues of mine have said that they voted leave because of:

The European Court of Human Rights.

Because there are too many immigrants ( from a man who is of Greek/Italian parents, with an Italian wife).

Because we need a change ( what would change not specified).

These are teachers.

'Oh how sweet to be an idiot'. (speaking personally).
Is that a Neil Innes lyric? (@DGR)

It is a Neil Innes lyric!

Oasis ripped it off for the song "Whatever"

I had it from the Bonzo dog Doodah band.

(first comment )

Neil Innes is a family friend and he hates Brexit with a massive passion

Just been listening to him on an 'internet music site'. Improved my afternoon in a sideways but upwards sort of way.

My late DM was a fan ... Anyone remember "The Innes Book of Records" ?

Then, of course, Dirk, Barry, Nasty and Stig: the prefab four ....

I have 'Clowns on the road' here.

The vast majority of my friends voted "Remain". Same, everyone in my family who could vote, voted "Remain" as well. But this was expected, as some of the family members live in EU or have EU spouses (like yours truly). One friend voted "Leave" and proudly told us all about it while being in company of bunch of friends of EU origin, and was a bit surprised that no one was impressed about this (well, his reasons were "this country needs sovereignty" but he couldn't really explain what he meant by that), and then finished by saying that his long term plans were to move abroad (to a EU country) anyway so it doesn't matter. We were all a bit I do think less of him atm, but this is not the only reason (or the most important one)

I work with a variety of people, some of them Leavers, some of them Remainers (most of them Remainers as I live in Scotland, in an area where most people voted Remain) but we do not really discuss politics at work; however, everyone is worried about the next months/years ahead and we all expect things will be really tough.

Not at all, and I have friends who voted both ways. But my friends are pretty intelligent and I think invested a lot of time and effort in trying to vote responsibly so were able to articulate good reasons either way, and you have to respect that.

DH and I were pretty upset although not surprised that PIL voted leave to ‘get their country back’. They are very comfortable financially and unlikely to be significantly impacted if the economy goes belly up. What hurt was they did not appear to care or consider that DH and I, just getting by as it is with a mortgage and DC would be likely to suffer long term as a result. They saw DH loose his job following the 2008 crisis and I could not believe that they would possibly vote for something that would put us in that awful position again.

This is beside the fact that I am an EU citizen and they did not appear to care or consider what impact this could have on my rights or ability to stay in the UK. This I took personally.

I just avoid the subject with them for now while carrying a seething resentment. However if the worst happens I will find it difficult to maintain a relationship with them.

Been reading the books "Limbo and "Limbo too"- plenty of tension between family members, colleagues noted in those.

I don't tend to discuss Brexit with people other than the odd comment - a colleague definitely voted to leave and if I see her Twitter feed she's a fan of JRM and his ilk, so best to keep very quiet.

The one person I fell out with, a bit, was my mum who also voted remain! But she said she hoped everything would go tits up because it would teach the Leavers a lesson. Yes, and me and you and your grandson and every other remain voter too. Despite the ravings of the extreme Brexiteers I don't think most remain voters do want things to go tits up, they just want everything to be ok.

She qualifies for an Irish passport but sadly I don't.

I have a friend who lives in an EU country. She actually took out citizenship of the country even before the referendum, in the few weeks coming up to it. What surprised me was that her father voted to leave. I suppose he may have known that she would go for local citizenship but why vote in a way that might destroy your daughter's life and career?

I have a friend who voted leave to annoy his brother. What can you do. I wonder how many people voted for silly reasons like he did.

He voted Leave hoping that the UK would then make it easier for people from Commonwealth countries to come here I can understand that reasoning.