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Brexit

What Do You Think Will Happen On Brexit Day?

308 replies

KennDodd · 20/08/2018 22:43

Do you think street parties, riots, candlelit vigils, what?

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keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 21:50

Yaralie,

They may have been open to scrutiny alright. And Farage would not be the unelected mouthpiece he is now either.

There is no perfect solution, but the current voting system is just not right IMV.

frumpety · 21/08/2018 21:52

It was never half the country though , it was 26.5% of the country , and the reasons they voted leave were myriad.

I still don't think it will happen. So in answer to the question , nothing much as we wont be leaving and the vast majority of the UK public will be relieved the whole thing is finally over Smile

keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 21:57

@frumpety

I agree. Anything that involves a hard Brexit is treason.

It will be sorted. But unfortunately relationships between UK and EU will change forever.

Thank God for the GFA and the Border issue with ROI.

An International Treaty that had nothing to do with the EU at all, but they supported it. Straws, Camels, Back.

Who knows though. I am optimistic that sense will prevail. So shoot me now!

PestymcPestFace · 21/08/2018 22:08

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This is what the government is asking for, for the financial sector. It is a bit cake and eat it. However, it does show that a no deal is unthinkable.

Moussemoose · 21/08/2018 22:19

FPTP is fundamentally unfair on at least 3 occasions since WW2 the popular vote has gone to the side that did not have a majority in the HoC.

Smaller parties are treated very unfairly.

I could go on, in fact I have been banging on about this for at least 40 years as have a lot of other people.

frumpety · 21/08/2018 22:21

Keyboard no not even a BINO , I think we will abandon the whole thing, and I believe that the vast majority of the UK will be relieved, people like the idea of change , but when push comes to shove , the actual realities of change are uncomfortable and discombobulating for the majority. People on the whole don't thrive on uncertainty Smile

keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 22:22

Moussemoose,

If nothing has changed in 40 years, who do you think will change it now?

How can electoral reform be achieved?

PestymcPestFace · 21/08/2018 22:26

Only slightly biased, but a good explanation of how inequality has divided the UK. Danny Dorling giving a speech at the RSA

MrsFogi · 21/08/2018 22:26

I don't think anything will change on the day. Changes will come over the next few months. My company has shifted up a gear and is now working on th basis of no deal and is drawing up plans to move a lot of work out of the UK to European locations over the coming months). They are not able/willing to "wait and see". Assuming other companies are doing the same I suspect we will start to see the job losses and trickle down effect of these over the coming months. No companies are going to wait until March to implement their plans.

keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 22:29

@frumpety,

I am optimistic about your theory too. But Farage has bounced back into the fray very recently.

Hopefully it is the last sting of the dying wasp. But there is no accounting for rabid Brexiteers either is there?

Could be down and dirty. But I am sure common sense rather than a treacherous crash out will prevail. Nothing else makes any sense anymore.

keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 22:32

Mrs Fogi,

I doubt they could move to EU location after an Exit from EU either. They will be outside the tent forever. UK seems not to realise that plans are happening right now, and with a vacuum of information it will continue.

You could not make this up really.

frumpety · 21/08/2018 22:40

The problem with Farage is one of saturation, people are beginning to tire of him, he has become so ridiculed that even most ardent leavers are distancing themselves. I understand his need to use this opportunity to increase his own personal wealth, it is a now or never opportunity for him. He is fast becoming yesterdays 'hero' , the problem with making promises is that people have an expectation to see them delivered and two years is an awful long wait ……...

BMW6 · 21/08/2018 23:07

I guess what Germany didnt manage to achieve during 2 WWs it had managed via the unification of Europe, because they’re the real winners of the single market and Euro

Yep, and I suspect that is why so many over 60's voted Leave.

PestymcPestFace · 21/08/2018 23:28

Somehow my grandfather gave me impression he fought against fascism. I don't think the irony of the current situation would be lost on him.

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 21/08/2018 23:28

I also feel it’s extraordinary that the people who voted to leave the union are called “racist” when personally i belive it to be the other way around.

How can it be racism to want to limit the movement of people from a generally white “middle class” (access to water, education, healthcare and social benefits) geographical area, which then limits the citizens from countries like India, China, Aftica or South Africa entering due to the lack of resources with which the UK has to accommodate them?

I would really appreciate it if someone voted remain could explain it to me. And I am not being deliberately obtuse.

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 21/08/2018 23:29

Mean Africa and South America.

AlexaShutUp · 21/08/2018 23:33

How can it be racism to want to limit the movement of people from a generally white “middle class” (access to water, education, healthcare and social benefits) geographical area, which then limits the citizens from countries like India, China, Aftica or South Africa entering due to the lack of resources with which the UK has to accommodate them?

If I actually believed that the majority of Brexit voters wanted to limit EU migration in order to allow more migrants in from countries like India, China or South Africa, then you might have a point. But I don't believe that for a moment.

There might be a very small proportion of Brexit voters who think like that, but you're deluded if you think they're the majority.

AlexaShutUp · 21/08/2018 23:34

Mean Africa and South America.

In which case, I feel compelled to point out that Africa isn't a country.

keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 23:35

Frank,

Remainers do not have to explain themselves. They voted to stay and keep the status quo.

It is up to Brexiteers to justify Brexit and by default any perceived racism really isn't it?

Userplusnumbers · 21/08/2018 23:35

I live in the UK but am employed in Germany. As much as I hate the thought of Brexit, I'm really looking forward to my first payday after that. The ecahnge rate means I'll be quids in.

Peregrina · 21/08/2018 23:36

Perhaps they should be reminded that if it wasn't for us what would be left of them would have been speaking German for a long time now.

Would you like to clarify who 'us' is? Is it just the British, or does it include the Commonwealth citizens and then later the Russians (yes we fought on the same side) or also later, the Americans. Not to mention those Polish fighter squadrons.

keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 23:36

Alexa,

Neither is South America either.

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 21/08/2018 23:40

I may be deluded, but the casual use of the word racist to describe anyone who voted to leave the union is awful.

Personally i do believe if limiting the number of people from the EU into the UK, means bright, motivated, educated immigrants move to the UK, most British People would welcome their contribution with open arms.

I am not naieve, I recognise racism is alive and well in the UK, but genuinely feel we are one of the most, if not the most, tolerant nation on the plant

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 21/08/2018 23:43

God, to the pedants up thread, i KNOW Africa is a continent, as is South America.
Nice contribution though.