Westminstenders: Summer Season

[RedToothBrush]

No its not the weather making your brain rot and stop thinking.

Thats just Brexit.

It is very likely your youngest can go to Sweden but there will be more paperwork and cost involved. A 'no fly, no sail' stoppage in the case of a 'no deal' can't last indefinitely but attempting to travel for the few weeks following 'Brexit day' might be unwise. A company that wants your 'DC' to work for them will probably help with the admin as well. It may be something like the 'green card' for the USA (at the worst).

Oh look Brexit opportunities in security:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/west-end-elite-eye-private-police-force-5n7dgpl2m
West End elite eye private police force
Wealthy landlords are in talks to fund a scheme for hundreds of guards to patrol posh areas of central London

Private police force to have access to the police national databases, what could possibly go wrong there?

What is the point of the UK having a government at all if they are going to privatise the whole lot?

What is the point of the UK having a government at all if they are going to privatise the whole lot?

We had a government prior to the establishment of the police.

The first police forces were private forces. I believe amongst the first were railway companies. In part railway police were first charged will telling members of the public who didn't understand how big and dangerous and fast trains were, to keep off the lines. Then local regional forces emerged - often taking police from the railway companies, and it was only later that these were run by councils and with some reluctance.

If you wanted to prosecute someone, you had to bring a private prosecution - hence why we still have this quirk of law. Public prosecutions were a lot later. Of course you had to have the means and ability to bring a private prosecution.

Once again we are seeing roll back to pre victorian era where capital punishment was applauded, safe guarding frameworks of any kind didn't exist, exploitation was just how things were done and law and order was just something to keep the peasants in line.

@RTB
I am not quite old enough to remember those early Victorian times although I fell like it tonight. My objection is really that the Government seem to be privatising as much as possible so that when things go wrong it is always someone else's fault. So 'taking back control' from Brussels (if you believe that) and handing it to totally unelected third parties with a distinct 'profit' motive rather than public service.
The 'small print' on the ballot paper must have been written VERY small to get all these clauses in. Maybe if we take a microscope to the word 'unicorn' it is actually comprised of a string of very fine text.

Just seen this on twitter

English Radical History @ RadicalHistory
Tony #Benn's five questions for the powerful:

1) What power do you have?
2) Where did you get it?
3) In whose interests do you exercise it?
4) To whom are you accountable?
5) How can we get rid of you?

If they cannot answer the last question, we do not live in a democracy.

It doesn't just apply to democracy as a whole, but to every facet of political power within political parties.

Right now, we ain't doing too well cos too many people aren't interested in transparency and accountability

too many people aren't interested in transparency and accountability
Our exam system has one or two issues. LEAs have lost most of their power and ability to hold schools to account by locally elected representatives. Some parents are unhappy with their kids' schooling. Many seem unable to make the link.

medium.com/behind-local-news-uk/why-society-should-fear-the-constant-political-attacks-on-journalists-and-journalism-df8aa15ea03e
Why society should fear the constant political attacks on journalists and journalism

By the wonder journalist Jen Williams

*Wonderful

She uses a brilliant Orwell quote:

“If thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought. A bad usage can spread by tradition and imitation even among people who should and do know better,”

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/business/customs-brokers-cannot-cope-with-flood-of-work-after-brexit-qvkztfnsp?CMP=Sprkr--Editorial--thetimes--Unspecified--TWITTER
Customs brokers ‘cannot cope’ with flood of work after Brexit

Customs brokers are bracing themselves for a surge in business after Brexit amid warnings that it will be almost impossible to meet demand if Britain crashes out of the European Union without a deal.

Trade specialists believe a hard Brexit would generate “far more business than we could ever handle” after Britain’s first official guidance urged companies to turn to brokers and freight forwarders.

“We’re going to be rather like a guy selling ice cream in a park with 10,000 people,” George Baker, chairman of a Felixstowe-based brokerage of the same name, said. “It’s going to be almost impossible to satisfy the demand.”

Shock. 'Technical' note (from herein to be named correctly as 'untechnical notes' to channel the point Orwell made) is a load of unworkable bollocks.

Twitter also tells me that yesterday the Sunday Times reported that the untechnical note for aviation is so shambolic its postponed until next month. When no doubt it will still be equally shambolic but the civil service will have cleaned up the language a bit to look ok in newspaper quotations. They'll still look bloody awful to anyone with the willingness to engage the capacity of the thing between their ears.

Posted this also on the aviation thread:

... that echoes what I was told by a visitor to my work - a South African guy who works in aviation. I know it’s anecdotal but he reckoned the government had way underestimated the complexity of dealing with aviation and he just didn’t think Brexit was going to happen.

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/27/monday-briefing-no-deal-brexit-would-create-legal-vacuum-warns-labour?CMP=twt_gu
Monday briefing: No-deal Brexit would create 'legal vacuum', warns Labour

Planning has ‘barely scratched the surface’

No fucking shit. Only been saying that for two years.

Or with Aviation, a No Deal Brexit will happen, and then the Government will start squealing like a pig being slaughtered, and will start emergency talks with the EU/USA or anyone who can get them out of the hole.

Agree Peregina.

Aviation is definitely one to keep an eye on. Its one that will be harder to play 'pin the blame' with. Its one that you can't hide the effects of as being anything other than being directly related to Brexit too.

I’ve just realised I have to travel for work in the first week of April I could fly out before Brexit day, but don’t want to risk not being able to come back, thinking of my (small children). What a mess!

I could fly out before Brexit day, but don’t want to risk not being able to come back

Passenger flights would probably end by about mid-March as airlines and travel companies would need to ensure that their planes, staff, crews and passengers are not stranded on 29th March.

MissMoon imo, best to stay put - don't travel abroad shortly before Brexit if you want to return promptly

If there is flight chaos, then your trip out of the UK may be cancelled anyway,
especially if your employer is concerned they may have to pay for you to stay for an unknown period in a hotel.

shortly before Brexit, or just after

it is possible that flights stop a little after Brexit, if the legal penny drops late with other countries

it is possible that flights stop a little after Brexit, if the legal penny drops late with other countries

Nope - commercial flight plans are filed in advance and the foreign authorities [the airports, the air traffic controllers in all sections along the route etc] would want details of the aircraft, pilot and crew certifications - which all expire on 29th March.

The country is going to come to a standstill at this rate.

Speaking to a friend last night she had no idea what was going on and hadn't kept up to date with the news and no deal brexit. Gave a brief summary of the technical notices the best I could and she was

It's getting frustrating the lack of knowledge amoungst people, the info is out there but unless it's broken down and repeated everywhere (newspapers, channel news, day time tv like this morning, etc) people will miss it. It's like the public are zombie walking into disaster.

Yes, you’re probably right, so annoying!