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Westminstenders: Summer Season

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RedToothBrush · 17/08/2018 11:58

No its not the weather making your brain rot and stop thinking.

Thats just Brexit.

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BigChocFrenzy · 21/08/2018 12:48

Swedish I"ve noticed the dramatic change - I would call it a backtrack or even U-turn - in RNorth's blog over the last week or so.

Most important: he's now posting opinions and Leave sources, rather than the facts with source references that made his blog so useful.
So, may become just another Leaver blog

He even went all out on a Sun poll that claimed a significant shift in Remainers switched to Leave - and seems an outlier compared to other current polls.
This is from someone who kept scorning polls showing growing support for a 2nd ref and for Remain - obv

I put it down to him no longer being able to reconcile his fervent support for Brexit - even without a deal -
with the horrendous consequences of no deal that he was posting,
especially since he kept posting that no deal was almost certain.

I also suspect that the hardcore Leavers who have been loyally on his blog for many years - some making monthly financial contributions too - have been Emailing him a lot, protesting that he was undermining Brexit.

So, he found a way out of his dilemmma: politics will save us,
from the short term consequences at least.

He still says the medium / longer term consequences will be large increases in the trade deficit and unemployment
.... but maybe that will change too over the next few weeks.

If he was unaware of politics when he - and Booker - wrote all their terrifying warnings about no deal
and now genuinely believes that politics remove the short term dangers
then his next blog should include a statement "I was wrong"

Some others of his fellow Leavers / Flexiters btl on his blog have spent a lot of their time & effort since his original warnings, getting them out to their social circle, to MPs, to the general public
At least one or two now seem to think they've wasted their time and even participated in Project Fear II; they are indeed entitled to feel miffed.

Hazardswan · 21/08/2018 14:45

Signed! Just about to share Smile

BigChocFrenzy · 21/08/2018 14:52

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/21/william-hague-urges-tories-to-reject-plan-to-change-leadership-contest-rules

William Hague (a former tory leader) wrote in the Torygraph

that in some respects he was “spectacularly wrong” to have brought in the new system, first used to elect Iain Duncan Smith in 2001.

“I believed at the time that giving a vote to members would help to enlarge the membership and make it more representative of the country, and aimed for a million members of a revived grassroots organisation,” he said.

“The sad reality is that, since then, the total number of Conservative members has halved, and earlier this year officially stood at 124,000.
Most of these are wonderful people Grin… But they are often the first to point out that they are not remotely representative of society at large or even of their own voters.”GrinGrin < or even of the human species >

usuallydormant · 21/08/2018 15:31

Still lurking, one of the many reading this regularly I’m sure. As usual, thank to you all, definitely one of the best ways to catch up on Brexit insanity.

I saw this in our local bookshop in France in the kids section: Brexit Romance. I might just have to buy it, it seems to have been written by a French woman long time resident in the UK. I’m guessing it’s going to be a bit of a reverse on the French children don’t throw food type books.

editions-sarbacane.com/brexit-romance/.

In short, Brexit doesn’t stop Marguerite from moving to London on the Eurostar. But then she meets Lord Cosmo Carraway and gets involved with his start up organising fake marriages between French and English to get European passports....

prettybird · 21/08/2018 16:40

I see nagging MNHQ has finally seem sense and moved the AIBU thread about Brexit's impact on the NHS back to AIBU Grin

I wonder if the multiple reports of any topic in AIBU that should could be in a specific topic had anything to do with it Wink I personally didn't report any, but I did write a couple of snotty posts tagging MN staff mentioning their collusion in sidelining the topic and their inconsistency. Grin

woman11017 · 21/08/2018 16:45

Flowers mother and prettybird on the thread move.Smile

DGRossetti · 21/08/2018 16:51

So why does that thread go back to AIBU, while others which were moved from there to here stay here ?

prettybird · 21/08/2018 16:57

I think because the original poster in that thread, in her OP, explained why it needed to be in AIBU - and was then ignored. Angry

....and that riled enough people to get on to MNHQ's back even more than usual Grin

DGRossetti · 21/08/2018 17:03

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45221262

Many of Wales' fishermen will "not survive" a Brexit no deal, it has been claimed.

The vast majority catch shellfish, exporting them live to the continent or further afield via EU trade deals.

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DGRossetti · 21/08/2018 17:04

So maybe put it in the thread title (as that OP did) too ?

Motheroffourdragons · 21/08/2018 17:23

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

DGRossetti · 21/08/2018 17:34

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-co-operative-brexit-referendum-vote-corbyn-stance-leave-eu-a8501396.html

Labour is set to face further pressure to shift its position on a new referendum, as its sister party plans a series of key votes on its approach to Brexit.

The Co-op party, which stands on a joint slate with Labour, will vote in the autumn on whether to back a second referendum, single market membership and extending the Article 50 negotiating period.

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DGRossetti · 21/08/2018 17:35

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-latest-no-deal-michel-barnier-dominic-raab-uk-blame-game-a8501631.html

The European Union’s chief Brexit negotiator has warned that the EU will not be swayed by a “blame-game” in the British press press over who is responsible for the looming no-deal Bexit.

Saying he had been following the British debate on the matter, Michel Barnier told reporters in Brussels: “To be very frank with you I do see this blame game starting against the European Union in the case of a no-deal. But the European Union is not going to be impressed by that kind of blame game, everyone should understand that.

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DGRossetti · 21/08/2018 18:38

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Westminstenders: Summer Season
RedToothBrush · 21/08/2018 19:06

Good news for Theresa.

Harry Cole @ mrharrycole
Brits drunk so much booze during the heatwave and World Cup that Treasury coffers swelled by a extra £300million this summer.

I wonder how many people will remember this year as our last good summer.

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Hazardswan · 21/08/2018 19:11

Ken Clark 😤

red sounds as if we've drunk enough not to remember!

woman11017 · 21/08/2018 19:15

Soma.

woman11017 · 21/08/2018 19:21

Brits drunk so much booze during the heatwave
Soma, from Brave New World,. It sounds nicer than alcohol. But used by the state for the same reasons.
In fact, if we're stock piling......................
www.shmoop.com/brave-new-world/soma-symbol.html

Thomasinaa · 21/08/2018 22:23

Just had a chat with some Spanish people. There's been a court decision that 5 men who sexually attacked a young women are not guilty. Apparently there have been protest demonstrations around the country.
Why do the British NEVER protest? Not really? I went on an anti-Brexit demonstration, and it was terribly quiet and polite, and small.
Do we in some sense deserve what we have coming?

keyboardkate · 21/08/2018 22:38

Thomasinaa,

We queue in line for our own demise.

And politely for the bus, and everything else.

Brexit has polarised our country, and maybe people are scared of outing themselves to their families, co workers etc. as to which side they are on.

The best demos I have ever seen were in Catalonia re the Independence from Spain. Whoa they didn't hold back at all! Not that it made much difference in the end, but the emotion and passion of those demonstrating was amazing.

Hazardswan · 21/08/2018 22:43

I always think of the Iraq protests, million or just under people wasn't it? News reported it as if it was an excuse for kids to bunk off school. Taught a generation protests make no difference.

RedToothBrush · 21/08/2018 22:47

Paul Manafort: Trump campaign manager, guilty on eight counts
Michael Cohen: Trump personal lawyer and supposedly directly takes orders from Trump pleads guilty.

Well thats looking fab.

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RedToothBrush · 21/08/2018 22:49

Mistrial on ten other counts.

I honestly don't know if this news tonight is good or bad.

Its gonna make things more volatile.

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Hazardswan · 21/08/2018 23:00

Impeach trump next?

Stop brexit?

And we can all find sanity again?

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