To ask if anyone is considering stockpiling

[Ninoo25]

Just that really, given that the government asking industry to stockpile food and medicines has been all over the news in the past week, I was wondering how many people are planning on stockpiling themselves and if so what are you going to stockpile and how much?
TBH my main concern is long term medication that I’m on, but as it’s only available on prescription and Dr wouldn’t let me order more than I need, so there’s nothing I can do about that anyway!

Last year my town and the surrounding towns got a message from the water supplier that something was wrong with the reservoir and there was a chance water supplies would be scarce for 24 hours.

Note, only 24 hours and it was a POSSIBILITY, it hadn't even happened yet.

All the local supermarkets instantly ran out of bottled water, people were literally climbing the shelves en masse, fighting in the aisles. For a potential 24 hour shortage.

Do not underestimate the stupidity of a group of people, and the power of Panic.

(Oh and the water situation was resolved by the following morning)

Most tins have ringpulls, why are people worried about whether their tin opener will break?

We haven't used our's for years... hmm that's a thought .... maybe I will put it on Gumtree - £200 ono

We always have loads of stuff in anyway, can't understand only having a weeks supply, what if you are ill or it snows

Yes, but I've lived in Germany where government's routine advice is to stock two weeks worth of supplies for emergencies, anyway, so it's become habit. But yes, I'm stockpiling extra, my favourite bread flour is top of the list as it's Canadian, it suits my breadmaker perfectly.

After that, tinned stuff, but I'm still deciding what and how much. I've stocked up on seeds to grow as much of my own veg as possible, but that decision was made anyway and nothing to do with Brexit.

I hope our diabetic Prime Minister thinks about this. I read yesterday that we don't produce insulin in this country and its transport is time- and temperature-critical.

Jarstastic your solution could also see British farmers then put out of business with cheaper imports and no exports, do you think that would be wise?

Why should people be even exposed to any kind of worry about this

It is treacherous to us all and very unnecessary. No words of comfort coming from anywhere to quell anxieties either. So cruel

Well actually, despite various posters trying to claim that it is all the fault of Remainers, the discussion stems from the annoncements from Dominic Raab, (the Brexit Minister and one of the leaders of the Leave campaign), that companies should be planning to stockpile food and medicines.

His remarks were the direct result of the briefing that John Manzoni, the chief executive of the civil service, gave MPs two weeks ago that a breakdown between the UK and the EU could have some “horrendous consequences” that the UK is not yet ready to cope with;

• many aspects of the contingency planning — like the M26 idea and the use of RAF aircraft to ferry supplies of food and medicine around the country — are so drastic that they risk alarming the public.

Manzoni's role as a civil servant is to ignore the political bullshit and tell politicians the effects of their policies. Raab initially denied that the situation was getting this bad - but everyone could already read what had Manzoni had said, e.g. here from the Financial Times. www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/uk-steps-up-doomsday-planning-for-no-deal-brexit/ar-BBKR2Wr?ocid=spartanntp

Going to get in non perishables, I'm hoping all will go smoothly but if stocks are low for a few days or prices go up for a bit at least we will have a bit of a buffer. Will also help if we have bad snow again.

There's no point in increasing the number of dairy cows if you can't actually feed them

Round my way, farmers have been seriously considering reducing stock since the harsh winter and dry summer. Fortunately it is now pissing with rain so I suspect the cattle have been reprieved. But no, it's not as if they can suddenly ramp up production. It's not as if farmers operate with spare capacity - they can't afford to.

Would the folks who have to stockpile.be happy to dish out some stockpiled stuff,in an emergency,to those who can't stockpile for various reasons

I live in an area in which 70% voted leave. It's an unpleasant fact of Brexit that many who voted out will be the worst affected by it. But no, I'm not sharing. I just about have enough money and storage space to put aside a few things. I can't feed the whole fucking village, and they voted for this shit anyway.

"Would the folks who have to stockpile.be happy to dish out some stockpiled stuff,in an emergency,to those who can't stockpile for various reasons"

No. Have a look on threads on here for advice on putting away 3 days worth of food on a low budget with limited space. @Brillopad has some good stuff.
I entirely accept that there will be people who still can't do this.
I will help my household and my elderly in laws. I might help anyone who can help us in kind. That's it. One of the reasons I am doing what I can to post what I hope is realistic and practical advice on here. I'm a prepper. I don't expect you to be but you can do something to get a buffer in.
If things get tough, I won't help you. I have my daughter to think about.

Would the folks who have to stockpile.be happy to dish out some stockpiled stuff,in an emergency,to those who can't stockpile for various reasons

I think it'd be pretty foolish to hope that someone else is going to dish out items in an emergency. As pps have said people will have their own families to look after.

Not only that but Brexit has been so divisive. There are a lot of people who feel they've been fucked over by their neighbours/relatives etc, why would they be inclined to think about them? I think one of the impacts of all this will be a hardening of attitudes from people who might previously have given a lot of themselves but have now decided they can no longer give the time, money or headspace to anyone but their own families.

Can you imagine the riots if this happened? At least half the country didn’t want this in the first place. None of what was promised is going to materialise. It’s a choice, not a bloody war situation. Any government who steers their country into this type of mess won’t be in government for very long.

So no, I’m not bloody stockpiling. The brexit twats can fuck right off.

While on this thread, can I ask if anyone is concerned about their money? I have most of my savings in a large bank that has previously been bailed out by the government. My hope is that if worst comes to worst they would bail it out again. However, I also have a significant amount of money in a lifetime ISA at a small independent building society. My instinct is to get it out, but the conditions don’t permit me to withdraw it unless to buy a house or to use for my retirement. Obviously buying a house right before Brexit would be far from ideal, as there’s likely to be at least a short-term plunge in prices afterwards.

Can anyone reassure me? Anyone in a similar situation?

@SlothSlothSloth - I do not predict a total collapse of the UK economy. I predict a blip. We've had them before and eventually recovered. I'm a prepper for what it's worth. Does that reassure you?

sloth, savings should be covered up to £85,000 by the Financial Services Compensation scheme, provided the building society is authorised. It should be clearly stated on their website.

I'd be more worried about the impact of the recent weather on food supplies than Brexit: www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/28/farmers-drought-summit-food-supply-fears-crisis-heatwave

@drearydeardre is that for me? How nice.

I don't want to stockpile.

I am worried about running out of meds and food for the dogs, so I will have to make sure I have a cushion to fall back to.

What worried me more is riots. Remember 2011? It goes like wildfire, can be caused by the smallest thing and there's nothing I can do about it. Now that terrifies me.

Colombian coffee is imported here under an existing EU free trade deal with Colombia trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=691

These are deals that will no longer apply to us after March 30th, it's not just imports from EU countries that will be affected all of our trade deals will need to be renegotiated from a position of weakness.

blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2016/03/04/leaving-the-eu-would-mean-renegotiating-more-than-100-trade-agreements/

Thanks, belini and extinct. It looks like I’m covered by FSCS so very relieved. I agree that it’s likely to only be a blip at most - I’m not in panic mode, just trying to think of worst case scenarios so I’m not caught off-guard.

Yes, the weather is a concern too, especially if it’s an ongoing pattern rather than just one very hot summer... so many niggling worries...

This 'we were fine before the EU' stuff makes me . Yes of course the population wasn't living off foraged nuts and berries. But think back 40 odd years ago , I remember my small market town had greengrocers and butchers in parades of shops on the outskirts, the centre of town had greengrocers, butchers and fishmongers and we had no supermarkets. I remember the first one opening in the nearest large town and I am really not that old !
There were also three market gardens in the town , all of these are now gone and are housing developments.
Everyone in our street had milk and eggs delivered by a milkman.

I'd be more worried about the impact of the recent weather on food supplies than Brexit

These things aren't either/or. The long, harsh winter followed by a very dry summer will affect food supply. Then on top of that we risk a no-deal Brexit. Even if we do manage a deal, it's likely that food supplies will be adversely affected. Either we're looking at price hikes, or a relaxation of standards meaning flooding with cheap, substandard products.

We could cushion ourselves against the effects of weather events whilst in the EU. If we are to do so whilst outside of it, we need to be much better prepared - starting with having trade negotiators, and vets to check the supply chain (currently most of them come from the EU).

PenguinBollard
All the local supermarkets instantly ran out of bottled water, people were literally climbing the shelves en masse, fighting in the aisles. For a potential 24 hour shortage.

If something is wrong with the water in the local reservoir, isn't it sensible to stock up on water for drinking and cooking?

No, I’m not considering stockpiling at all.
But then I don’t buy into the whole ‘project fear’ hysteria being whipped up by the remain supporting media.
It’s scandalous what they’re doing but there you go - freedom of speech & all that.

But then I don’t buy into the whole ‘project fear’ hysteria being whipped up by the remain supporting media.

History teaches that governments are always intent on playing down situations, as they don't want panic. It's sensible to ignore all soothing noises and quietly make provision for yourself just in case.