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Channel 4 news is so blantantly anti Brexit it should be taken off air.

435 replies

surferjet · 17/07/2018 19:34

Why are they allowed to get away with it?

No replies wanted, just need this put out there.

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NameChangedAgain18 · 19/07/2018 22:26

What is the positive news about Brexit which Channel 4 News has failed to report?

Perhaps they should be giving daily updates from the blue passport factory?

Bearbehind · 19/07/2018 22:27

Shut up Bear.

I suspect you'd like to 'take me off air' too 😂

TheElementsSong · 19/07/2018 22:36

I suspect you'd like to 'take me off air' too

It must be so galling that under current law, millions of people on every form of media just can’t be silenced about the unmitigated shitness that is Brexit GrinGrinGrin

QuinionsRainbow · 19/07/2018 23:11

It’s an EU lovers convention masquerading as a news program.

B*llocks!
It's the most objective coverage of Brexit news to be had on UK TV at present. And it reflects the views of the 48% who didn't vote for the looming catastrophe that is Brexit, without continually referring to them as Traitors.

Moussemoose · 19/07/2018 23:21

Can I ask again Surfer when you put your complaint in where you quote and give examples of the bias you are talking about you let us see it?

I think giving specific examples, which I assume you can provide, will make the whole issue so much clearer.

LoveInTokyo · 19/07/2018 23:45

it is ironic you talking about North Korea when C4 news is pushing their own anti Brexit agenda 5 nights a week.

I really don’t think you understand what “ironic” means, do you Surfer?

C4 are reporting the news, as they see fit, because the UK is a free country with a free press, unlike North Korea.

In the same way that the Nazi-loving Daily Mail are free to publish their own bigoted drivel to be lapped up by the gullible and small-minded.

pointythings · 20/07/2018 07:38

It's basically Surfer's position that freedom of speech and a free press are things which only the Brexit faithful should have. You couldn't make it up.

LoveInTokyo · 20/07/2018 08:12

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twofingerstoEverything · 20/07/2018 08:36

I'm also agog here, waiting for surfer to tell us the Brexit good news!

OP, if you want to see the silencing of opposing views in action, you might like to look at Erdogan's Turkey. You say you were being 'over dramatic' when you suggested taking C4 news off air... maybe you'd like to pause and consider the very real consequences - not only for individuals, but also for democracy - of silencing dissent. It's nothing to joke about.

MrsChollySawcutt · 20/07/2018 08:47

I too am waiting for Surfer to unveil her well thought out, evidenced paper on the benefits of Brexit.

I'm also expecting a Gloucester Old Spot to fly past my window any minute....

drearydeardre · 20/07/2018 08:52

quinion
And it reflects the views of the 48% who didn't vote for the looming catastrophe that is Brexit, without continually referring to them as Traitors.
so it should also reflect the views of the 52% (majority in fact) who did vote to leave. without continually referring to them as ignorant, old, racist, right wing fascists and the rest. Angry
The BBC is almost as bad.

LoveInTokyo · 20/07/2018 08:55

“so it should also reflect the views of the 52% (majority in fact) who did vote to leave.”

Why should it?

The Sun, Mail, Express and Telegraph aren’t expected to represent the views of remainers.

You really really don’t understand the concept of free speech, do you? Only the BBC actually has a duty to be impartial, which hampered the remain cause because it meant they were obliged to present the views of idiot whack jobs as having equal weight to those of people who actually knew what the fuck they were talking about.

SoloD · 20/07/2018 09:40

The problem with reporting on Brexit is that the benefits are vague but the costs precise and large.

MrsChollySawcutt · 20/07/2018 10:11

Exactly this - no benefits huge cost and disruption. Can you imagine any organisation signing off on that as al business case;

Strategic Case (the case for change, strategic fit) - alienation of neighbouring countries, crippling to our economy, trade and jobs, vague notions about trade alliances outside of EU. NI thrown into turmoil. But we will have Sovereignty (whatever that is).

Economic Case (public value): Plunging pound and unknown impacts of no trade deal being struck with EU. Likelihood of import/export channels for goods and people being unavailable due to lack of agreements and reliance on non existent technology. Job losses, impact of public services and infrastructure. So no benefits. But we will have Sovereignty (whatever that is).

Management Case (Achievable, can be successfully delivered): not written, no idea how to deliver it or who could deliver it.

Financial Case (Affordability, within budget): Huge and ill defined costs to government and businesses both in UK and for our potential trading partners. Unaffordable. Potential negative impact for years to come.

Commercial Case (Supply side capacity, a potential deal) not written, no real precedent to follow, no desk certain and any deal struck likely to be punitive and bring many disadvantages

derxa · 20/07/2018 10:29

OP, Vine is an educated, informed professional - I’ll stake my house he’s a Remain supporter. And so very greedy.

LoveInTokyo · 20/07/2018 10:54

Greedy?

derxa · 20/07/2018 11:31

Not only only one of the best paid presenters on the BBC he's taking over from Matthew Wright.

derxa · 20/07/2018 11:36

I watch C4 News and all the other news channels. They each have their unique perspective. But mainly a SE of England perspective.

NameChanger22 · 20/07/2018 11:41

You want to silence the voice of reason? Says it all. I thought your mob cared about democracy???

LoveInTokyo · 20/07/2018 11:41

I’m confused as to what point you’re making.

Notonthestairs · 20/07/2018 12:06

If we are getting rid of the Channel 4 news howabout we also ditch The Telegraph, the Guardian and the Mail. They dont keep their political viewpoints to the Opinion section, they each print stories skewed to illustrate the papers political beliefs and ethos. Lets shut them down.

We should be challenged even if it makes us angry.

And do you really think that if Remain had won that would have been that? The papers would have dropped it? One happy Tory family, Farage would have retired and everyone would have just left the EU to get on with it?

QuinionsRainbow · 20/07/2018 15:56

so it should also reflect the views of the 52% (majority in fact) who did vote to leave. without continually referring to them as ignorant, old, racist, right wing fascists and the rest

Which, in fact, it does. It's called being open-minded and even-handed!

LoveInTokyo · 20/07/2018 16:27

Well according to Surfer they're not representing the views of the 52% unless they completely dismiss those of the 48% and say that Brexit is going swimmingly and any remoaner who doesn't agree can fuck off to Europe if they like it so much.

Moussemoose · 20/07/2018 16:34

The job of the news is to present the news. It shouldn't be reflecting the views of the nation, or the people. It should tell us what is happening and if that is unpalatable to some, then so be it.

OddBoots · 20/07/2018 16:52

If it is about reflecting view 62.5% of the population didn't vote for Brexit (either by voting remain or not voting).

Would you like all your news impartial, when there is a major drought would you like the reporters to add 'but at least we can all get a nice sun tan' and if there is an outbreak of a stomach virus on a ship should they also celebrate that the passengers lost several stones of weight between them? Or is it just this particular shitstorm you want them to find the silver lining for?