Channel 4 news is so blantantly anti Brexit it should be taken off air.

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Why are they allowed to get away with it?

No replies wanted, just need this put out there.

Oh dear, it's a teenager

1) Ending freedom of movement.
2) Not having EU laws forced on us ....etc etc - Taking back control basically.

But neither of those things are going to happen, even according the the White Paper

1. we are just going to enforce controls we could have done whilst in the EU and still let most people come and go as they please

2. we are going to have to abide by EU rules in order to have the remotest possibility of frictionless trade, just with the added bonus of having no say in those rules.

Groundhog day....However many times you present the facts to leavers they won't have it. What a cult.

Oh Surfer.

You can’t actually defend any of the points I made so you’re going with a comeback the average eight year old might come up with.

slow hand clap

"but David Cameron said it was binding" is not a valid constitutional argument.

It’s also factually incorrect.

So if David Cameron did say that (source?) he lied, because he had already held a referendum in 2011 which was legally binding, so he would definitely know the difference.

What is your problem?

We don’t agree on Brexit, big fucking deal.

Some very strange comments on here.

The BBC is anti-Brexit but not quite as blatantly as C4, which broadcasts so much propaganda it barely qualifies as a news program.

The referendum and the retrospective thoughts of a few law lords that is wasn't are academic and irrelevant.

More to the point, Parliament treated it as binding when they passed the Bill triggering Article 50 by a majority of nearly 400, which renders further discussion unnecessary.

The referendum may well have been ‘advisory* but David Cameron said it was binding

David Cameron didn't have the power to make it binding. Only parliament did. Cameron as he was the PM in our country which as a liberal democracy, had his power limited by the executive. He could make a statement like that which was POLITICALLY BINDING to his government, but legally he was always obliged to refer it to the HoC to make it LEGALLY BINDING. There is a huge difference between the two: Cameron made a statement that parliament had every right to turn around and say fuck off, leaving him with egg all over his face.

You are showing up you lack of understanding of the separation of powers between the executive, the courts and Parliament there.

Cameron could say to the electorate that we all should have a bank holiday on the second Tuesday in February, but companies would not be obligated to honour it without an act of parliament. They could show good will and honour it, but that's a different thing. Many might say 'fuck you Cameron I can't afford that' and ignore it completely.

As for leaving the EU and 17 million versions, link me to what Johnson, Gove, Hannan said the plan for leaving was dated 23rd June 2016 or before.

There is footage of Johnson harping on about how we'd have a deal like Norway, which is now absolutely beyond the pale to him even though that's what Remainers are leaning towards. The goal posts have shifted significantly - and no amount of rewriting of history will change what actually happened.

It was a deliberate political ploy.

Dominic Cummings admits this freely and isn't shy about how he used the tactic of letting 17 million people each form their own ideas about what leaving meant. You are actually contradicting the on record strategy of the Head of Vote Leave, in what you say!

If you still believe that your version of Brexit was the only one, then fine but you are only lying to yourself and trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

Trust me, we've all been misled at one time or another by politicians. I don't think the same as I did. I was wrong about stuff. Really fucking wrong.

But at least acknowledge it. There's no shame in it.

What is my problem?

My problem is the fact that, having won a very narrow victory in a referendum about whether to leave the EU (based on false promises of cake and unicorns), you’re now suggesting that a broadcaster which doesn’t agree with your point of view should be taken off air.

Go back and read your original post. That is literally what you are saying.

Now I will freely admit that I have very little respect for your point of view, but at least I am not advocating for some sort of authoritarian regime where you have no right to hold that view and broadcasters which do not toe the line and support that point of view should be shut down. So clearly, you have more of a problem with people holding opposing points of view than I do, and you have even less respect for my point of view than I do for yours (which is quite remarkable since I think your point of view is breathtakingly stupid).

Do you really not give a shit about free speech?

I swear, every time I think you’ve reached peak stupid and can’t go any further, you prove otherwise.

Must admit i do like channel 4 news. I like the fact that they are more factual and not as fawnny over news as the bbc

Well it’s just as well I don’t give a flying fuck what you think of me isn’t it.

Well it’s just as well I don’t give a flying fuck what you think of me isn’t it.

Fixed that for you mate.

Peak stupid was named David Cameron.

On many many levels.

You clearly didn’t get much love in Tokyo

Anyway.

Red, thanks, for your reply, always a pleasure talking to you.

No, I found love in France if you must know.

OP, please could you answer the question posed earlier on the thread?

What is the positive news about Brexit which Channel 4 News has failed to report?

Thank you.

I’m also hoping she’ll answer my question about why she wants to turn the UK into North Korea.

PMSL at surfer acting like a kid who's girl crush has just spoken to her!

I was being over dramatic about taking it off air, but it is ironic you talking about North Korea when C4 news is pushing their own anti Brexit agenda 5 nights a week.
And it’s not a case of ‘what do you expect them to say? Brexit isn’t going well is it?’ - that’s not the point, the point is they add their own personal opinion to every single interview - if you need proof, spend a day of your life watching 2 weeks worth on catch up.
It’s an EU lovers convention masquerading as a news program.

Shut up Bear.

Gosh you’re so right, C4 is just like North Korea and they’ve banned all other media and points of view

And the good Brexit news?