If there was another Brexit referendum tomorrow ...................

[TistyTosty]

.......would you vote the same as you did originally?

Could someone also please explain how the leavers cheated?

Yes I would vote the same.

@HarshingMyMellow

Read this:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/17/vote-leave-broke-electoral-law-and-british-democracy-is-shaken?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

@Helmetbymidnight but you are effectively trying to make Leavers 'explain themselves', as though you haven't heard the arguments time and again. Whatever anyone says is a waste of energy as you will clearly never be convinced, hence 2 years on you're still fighting to remain. Why should anyone keep explaining themselves to people who are determined not to listen? I would remind you that how ever unsatisfactory you feel the percentage, more voters were convinced by my side of the argument than yours, and if you want another roll of the dice the onus is on you to make the case for the EU. It's not up to me to convince you to accept a democratic result! No more than I'd expect you to do it if remain had won out.
I can tell you one thing for certain: everyone stands to gain much more from Brexit if people like you embrace a bit of democracy at work, and actually give it the chance to defy your expectations.

@MotherofPearl very interesting article.
Thank you.

everyone stands to gain much more from Brexit if people like you embrace

Be intrigued to learn more the mechanistic link between embracing/believing/positive sloganeering and Brexit gains.

Please stop @ing me Shirley. I really don’t want a notification every time you post your utter bollocks.

Before another referendum I would want to know exactly what I was voting for. The thing that struck me most about the referendum was the lack of any coherent plan or idea of what leaving actually involved. This needs to be laid out so people can make an informed decision without being swayed by emotive issues such as immigration and promises of cash for the NHS.

Everyone saying that the Chequers deal means EU is still in control: we will be out of the customs union and 80% of our trade (services) will not be under EU rules because it will not be covered by the free trade agreement. I'm a remainer and really concerned that services will be out of the single market. On the back of this, the CEO of Lloyds of London, a world renowned, hundreds of year old iconic financial firm, gave an interview this week saying they are 'full steam ahead' to move to Brussels now. Half the people I know in the financial sector are ether waiting for the axe to fall or have had trouble finding a new job. This is a harder Brexit than people seem to realise.
To answer the question, it really depends on what the question was. I want to minimise the chance of a hard Brexit. Until I realised the above, I would have gone for a third way in order to reach the most democratic possible solution - 48% is not a piddling amount. If we go for hard Brexit it will be unsustainable in the long term because so many people will be so unhappy with it (a bit like the situation prior to the referendum). We'll have swapped one very big group of disenchanted people for another.

Brexit was ill-thought through and is being very poorly executed

Blaim the Tories for that (Mind you, Labour haven't covered themselves with glory either).

Yes 100%. There are too many people on low incomes who will be worse off after Brexit and our level of poverty is a disgrace for the sixth biggest economy in the world.

@TheElementsSong if remainers (particularly MPs in all parties) spoke more positively about this country's prospects outside the EU instead of continuing to challenge the legitimacy of the vote, the government would by now have a degree of consensus at home, enabling them to present a much more confident, unified - and therefore stronger - negotiating position to the EU.

@Helmetbymidnight Will do. (This is the last one!) Though I obviously wouldn't have been tagging you if you hadn't been doggedly responding to my 'bollocks' with your crap arguments 👍

Cheers.

spoke more positively about this country's prospects outside the EU

This country has smaller prospects post-Brexit. This is the reality.

Even if everybody within these borders could be compelled to sloganeer positively, the EU and the rest of the world know the reality. The fact that the EU and the rest of the world know the reality, is not due to Remainers pointing it out to them.

Yes. Leave.

...the lack of any coherent plan or idea of what leaving actually involved.

The Leave campaign wasn't the government, so whatever plan they put forward, they had no power to make it happen.

Cameron's government called the referendum, they should have had an outline contingency plan in case Leave won. Cameron's contingency plan it seems was to bugger off and leave someone else to deal with it. But there has been a change of government and a general election since then anyway, so there's no certainty that any plan would have survived.

Yes (Remain)

However it REALLY would be good to know if they will stockpile.

Previously I tried to get people to pledge not to prepare at all. Takeup, despite all those lofty declarations of faith, was surprisingly low.

Yes (remain)