Still Not the Brexit Arms

[Bearbehind]

Gosh the old thread has been busy today!

Not got time to catch up just yet but putting this one here for later.

We are in the majority you know!

No you are not.

At best you represent 26% of the population.

That is not a majority.

No one voted to make themselves poorer so the tide will turn when it's clear that is what will happen.

Sadly it'll be too late by then.

Are you looking forward to being a vassal state of the USA
By that logic Canada is a vassal state of the EU as they have a free trade deal.

It is funny to be accused of speaking only in sound bites and rhetoric, only to have a remainer reply with a sound bite / rhetoric.

You have to hand it to fangirl she gives really good rhetoric

Not the merest whiff of facts or hint at figures , because it is all about the soundbite, am particularly loving the use of 'overlord' too

JWIM Isn’t the governments job to sort all those problems out, I did realise we had to do there jobs for them as well, if TM not up for it she could always stand aside and let NF take over

Bearbehind And only 24% of the population wanted to stay in the EU

And 74% didn't actually vote to leave

solution to the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland Everyone involved has said there won't be a hard border, so there wont be a hard border. Once we have left the EU we can negotiate how it will work, as equals.

WTO quotas Once we have left the EU we can negotiate the quotas as equals. Its in everyone's interest to get it resolved so it will be.

aviation Once we have left the EU we can negotiate aviation as equals. Its in everyone's interest to get it resolved so it will be.

Ditto insurance cover
Ditto road haulage licenses
Ditto medicines and drug research and sourcing drugs from the EU
Ditto nuclear matter

what does leaving the EU look like for the UK
On a day to day basis the UK will look similar to what it does now. Difference being that parliament will control who comes into the country. Parliament decide our laws, we wont be sending shit loads of money to Brussels. We will represent our own country on the world stage and all its bodies. There wont be appeals of UK law to a foreign court (the ECJ). And of course we will be doing our own trade deals.

This is why I dont post anything of substance because its just repeating the same things over and over again. Remainers KNOW all this, its not a secret.

If the EU doesn't want it to be this way they can agree something like the white paper that TM has put forward.

frumpety Let’s not get into this again out of the people that were allowed to vote and voted ( up to the people why they didn’t vote) the majority voted to leave even you can agree on that

Walkingdeadfangirl Your brave be ready to be shot down by the clever ones, there be here to put you right soon

Everyone involved has said there won't be a hard border, so there wont be a hard border. Once we have left the EU we can negotiate how it will work, as equals.

You'll need to sort the border before you leave.

fangirl has to be taking the piss now.

Only, I suspect she's not.

Such is the arrogance of Leavers.

I was hoping for a yes/no answer from fangirl. Instead I got her arguing that Canada is a vassal state of the USA - I have heard some, Canadians express similar sentiments, not liking the dominance of their neighbour. Certainly when Justin Trudeau expressed opinions which Trump didn't like, it did appear that Trump did think they were a vassal state.

I asked the question because Brexiters appear to want to have nothing to do with the EU, despite the fact that as current members we have had as much say as we chose to exercise, but want to rush to do deals with the USA when we won't have any elective say.

But Canada is irrelevant - we don't share a land border with them. If we leave we will share one with the EU, so the Irish border question needs a resolution, as does our aviation industry, as does our road haulage industry, as does the movement of medicines. It is certainly possible that these could be resolved in the fullness of time, but fullness of time is lacking right now.

At best you represent 26% of the population
More soundbites. Brexit voters represent the majority of British voters who give a shit about Brexit. That how democracy works, by MAJORITY, I know you dont like it but that's called sour grapes.

No one voted to make themselves poorer More soundbites.

No one voted to get sunburned either, have an EU army, bailout Greece, become part of the United states of the EU or to let millions of migrants into the country. We didn't vote for a lot of things What we DID vote for was for was BRitish EXIT from the EU.

GhostofFrankGrimes Why can’t the EU do it, we said we will not put up a hard border, the EU can if it wants

Rosstac why does one little pesky fact bother you so much ?

Ok here's why I keep bringing it up , so in a GE you go and vote for a candidate , regardless of whether they win or not , the person who does becomes your MP. True ?
Now does that MP only have to consider or work for those who voted for them ? No , their job is to represent and work for the good of all the people who live in their constituency. True ?
So Government's job is to represent and work for the good of all the people who live in the UK , regardless of whether all those people voted for them or not. True ?
So the Government should be representing the 74% as well as the 26% . True fact dat

Rosstac do you know anything about the Good Friday Agreement, why is came about and the history preceding it? Why are people so ignorant about the terrorism the UK had right on its own doorstep not long ago?

Peregrina ... Instead I got her arguing that Canada is a vassal state of the USA

More remainer ignorance. I never said anything of the sort. I was replying to your comment about being a vassal sate of the EU. We will no more be a vassal state of the EU than Canada is. I used Canada as an example of a country that has a FTA with the EU.

#Project Fear

You'll need a border under WTO. Its very simple. Until you realise it will destroy the GFA in the process. Another Brexit victory.

Walkingdeadfangirl And nobody ask Hungary first to accept 100,000 migrants against their will and are now being taken to court by the EU, yes the ECJ I wonder how that verdict will turn out

GhostofFrankGrimes The EU can put one up if they like

Right, so you are going to breach WTO rules now?

How are you going to sell no border to anti immigration leavers?

Frumpety - I disagree, throw a referendum into the mix and it’s different game, different rules

I asked a question: Are you looking forward to being a vassal state of the USA There was no logic of the if then, we infer. You fangirl decided that since Canada had a trade deal, it must be a vassal state.
Your words exactly.
By that logic Canada is a vassal state of the EU as they have a free trade deal.

You could have said that you didn't understand the question, or that you did not agree that the UK could slip into a vassal state arrangement with the USA, as it might with the EU. Instead you chose to talk about Remainer ignorance and try to deny what you said. Admittedly on the latter you have had a fine example set to you by the current crop of politicians who seem to think it's acceptable to lie their way out of difficulties.

GhostofFrankGrimes Won’t The EU be breaking WTO laws if they don’t put a border up ?

Time so Parliament ceases to exist because people were asked their opinion ?