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Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 17:29

Where next?

Auditions for chief turd polisher to Mrs May are in full action, whilst those who don't believe in the turd, wade about knee deep in their own shit, still searching for that illusive plan for Brexit which doesn't stink to high heaven of crap.

After the dual resignation of Davis and Johnson, amongst the stench there is an air of uncertainity and expectation of all hell breaking loose.

In the last 48 hours we have been told that

  1. May is more secure having crushed the brexiteers,
  2. May about to be ousted by a no confidence vote, triggering a leadership election,
  3. The Tory Party are about to split,
  4. Brexiteers are in disarray fighting amongst themselves,
  5. We will remain in the EU,
  6. We get an EEA deal,
  7. We will get no deal,
  8. A People's vote is inevitable and
  9. There will be a General Election.

Which only serves to merely highlight just how little of a clue ANYONE has about what happens next.

What bothers me now, is that Johnson seems not to have surfaced yet and there are rumours that Gove has gone to ground, whilst Donald Trump is practically on the plane and is stirring the pot praising Johnson.

Instead we seem to have a series of junior ministers and Tory HQ figures quitting in a long drawn out coordinated toy throwing out of the pram exercise, to try and get what hard brexiteers want.

If I had to hazard a guess at the general silence from key figures, I might be tempted to say that someone is going to use Trump's visit to throw a political grenade and actively invite him to endorse them.

That might sound ridiculous given that the public hates Trump, but that loses sight of the fact that the people who will vote for the next leader of the Tory Party are overwhelming authoritarian leaning and likely to be those who like Trump and would be impressed by such a move.

I note this tweet today from the wise Sarah Kendzior:

Sarah Kendzior @sarahkendzior
"There are parallels to past authoritarianism, but what's happening with Trump, in the digital age, is new and transnational. The president's loyalty is not necessarily to a state but to foreign leaders and multinational criminal alliances. The state is just something to sell."

It is clear that others in the parliamentary party will be very alarmed at the prospect. There were Tory MPs who were openly tweeted how please that disgusting Johnson had gone and are no fans of Trump.

May still seems to think that she can get her plan through and approved by the EU in its current form. The White Paper is due on Thursday.

Much speculation is that it will be significant if she fails to produce this on time, as she will have capitulated to the Brexiteers. And this will lead to the EU just giving up on us anyway.

She also announced to the Cabinet today, that preparations for No Deal were to be stepped up significantly.

We still are left wondering who, she is stitching up; the Brexiteers whose heads are currently exploding or the friends she keeps closest to her (friends? or ideological enemies).

The problem is that there just no other viable way forward at the moment, as the country is divided, both Labour and the Conservatives are divided and are more interested in their own future than that of the party and there are far too many ambitious 'celebrity MPs' who want to make their mark. No one gives a shit about ordinary workers or business. Plus there is the divine observation that DGRossetti made at the end of the last thread: The biggest obstacle to Brexit has been Brexiteers

The grab for post-Brexit power shows the whole of Westminister up as the cess pit of self interest it is, with Boris Johnson merely its biggest figure head.

Wait until the GFA officially has its head put on the chopping block awaiting its fate. Perhaps we can flog NI to Donald and get a Brexit Dividend afterall.

I must admit to finding it hard to have a view that is altogether different to this:
James Patrick @J_amesp
There is no way back from all of this. The next seven days simply decide how badly - on a scale of fucked to smouldering crater - it is going to end.

One final predictation, which I am DAMN certain of: Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all going to be grim for political watching if you are into democratic values and principles. It will be a 4 day sales pitch for Brand Trump in all its All American Overblown Horror that Brits tend to find utterly distasteful. Expect the red carpet of full of turd glitter to be rolled out for Donald Trump Show. Expect May to embarass herself in her fawning all over him, as if she's star struck. Expect that hideously cringeworthy photo thats totally inevitable.

Politics is going to get worse. It may never get better.

(But yay football gets to cover it all up... Come on England!)

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LookTwoFingers · 13/07/2018 13:52

Trump talks shit.

Trump has a maximum of two terms in office. If we are the back of the trade negotiation queue, we will be dealing with the next administration.

woman11017 · 13/07/2018 13:53

Dunt on that Green thread earlier:
@IanDunt
Really interesting take. And he is quite right: if May can smuggle an agreement on the backstop past parliament, everything else can be punted over to be dealt with during transition.

topcat1980 · 13/07/2018 13:53

As good trade deals take about 8-10 years to negotiate, and Trump has at max 6 left, then we deffo will!

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:11

OMG!

Trump just shat on The Sun and Tom Newton Dunn

Jennifer Jacobs @JenniferJJacobs
“Unfortunately there was a story that was done ... but it didn’t say what I said about the prime minister. ... It’s called fake news,” Trump says of his interview with The Sun.

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:13

Jim Pickard @PickardJE
Mr Trump is now boasting about the personal chemistry with the prime minister, saying of the Blenheim Palace dinner: "I was very embarrassed for the rest of the table."

Will someone pass me a bucket please?

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Mrsr8 · 13/07/2018 14:16

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:17

Emma Graham-Harrison @_EmmaGH
Donald Trump just appeared to call The Sun "FAKE NEWS" after his interview with them, offers to provide a tape of the whole thing which he said included unpublished compliments about Theresa May

oxfordgirl @oxfordgirl
LOL @realdonaldtrump ambits he did not know what he was talking about when he made the comments to the Sun about #brexit

Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Trump confirms he said everything the Sun said that he said. This is a new definition of fake news

So The Sun were fake news for reporting what he said, but he didn't really understand what he was talking about and the Sun were fake because they didn't report the bits where he said nice stuff about May.

Well, he's amused me if nothing else!

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Bearbehind · 13/07/2018 14:18

I don't think she's played a blinder.

All this has done is proven you can't believe what Trump says.

He isn't going to agree to a trade deal if we retain adherence to the EU rule book.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 13/07/2018 14:18

Mr Trump is now boasting about the personal chemistry with the prime minister, saying of the Blenheim Palace dinner: "I was very embarrassed for the rest of the table."

I hope TM kept her pussy safe, both in Trump terms and for poor Larry's sake Grin

Icantreachthepretzels · 13/07/2018 14:19

Mr Trump is now boasting about the personal chemistry with the prime minister, saying of the Blenheim Palace dinner: "I was very embarrassed for the rest of the table."

So it's actually happened... he's actually made me feel sorry for Theresa May. How can she go on with her life now he has said such a cringeingly awful embarrassing thing about her?

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 13/07/2018 14:20

So The Sun were fake news for reporting what he said, but he didn't really understand what he was talking about and the Sun were fake because they didn't report the bits where he said nice stuff about May.
Its really hard to defend The Sun against a fake news claim though isn't it? I mean in this case its ridiculous but normally...

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:20

Tomorrow on Trump TV

The US Trade Deal is back on. Trump has come to London and had an amazing time and saved the trade deal and Brexit.

More scenes of May losing her dignity sucking up to Donnie.

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:21

Kevin Schofield @PolhomeEditor
Donald Trump says he's met Vladimir Putin "maybe two and a half times". How does that work?

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woman11017 · 13/07/2018 14:22

boasting about the personal chemistry
He's trolling the country as usual, but lots of men and brexists will getting pleasure from his sexist insults of the pm.

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:22

Ciaran Jenkins @C4Ciaran
May: 'Overall, immigration has been good for the UK.'

Stick that on the front page of the Mail.

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:23

Carl Dinnen @carldinnen
Trump says Boris would be a great PM "but this incredible woman is doing a terrific job... that Brexit is a tough job"

Oooo the double down endorsement of Boris.

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:26

Steven Swinford @Steven_Swinford
Uh oh more fireworks 💥💥💥💥 from Donald Trump: ‘Once the Brexit process is concluded and PERHAPS the UK has left the EU, whatever you're going to do is OK with us. Just make sure you can trade with us.’

So Donald Trump has now suggested there is a possibility that Britain may not leave the European Union AT ALL

Arj Singh @singharj
May says she heard this and slaps down Trump: “we will be leaving the European Union”

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:26

Lucy Fisher @LOS_Fisher
Oof if looks could kill!! Theresa May was throwing daggers there as Trump just repeatedly said Boris Johnson would make a great PM.

Trump went on to say Brexit was a tough challenge with "the borders, all of the entries, and all of the things". Strong grip on detail...

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Violetparis · 13/07/2018 14:30

I wish a journalist would point out Trump's mother was an immigrant. I'm watching this press conference with a mixture of horror and amusement.

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2018 14:31

Just think. If you are having a bad day today, think about how Theresa's day is going....

Mark Di Stefano @MarkDiStef
“CNN is fake news I don’t take questions from CNN” - Trump cuts off CNN… Theresa May grimaces.

If she wants her low-key Love Actually moment, call on CNN.

What did May do to Merkel this week?

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DGRossetti · 13/07/2018 14:32

Donald Trump just appeared to call The Sun "FAKE NEWS" after his interview with them,

Predicted - by me - on this very thread (DGRossetti Fri 13-Jul-18 11:53:17)

"I am preparing for Trumps next pronouncement to be a baffling volte-face in some respects."

DGRossetti · 13/07/2018 14:34

So Donald Trump has now suggested there is a possibility that Britain may not leave the European Union AT ALL

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