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Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 17:29

Where next?

Auditions for chief turd polisher to Mrs May are in full action, whilst those who don't believe in the turd, wade about knee deep in their own shit, still searching for that illusive plan for Brexit which doesn't stink to high heaven of crap.

After the dual resignation of Davis and Johnson, amongst the stench there is an air of uncertainity and expectation of all hell breaking loose.

In the last 48 hours we have been told that

  1. May is more secure having crushed the brexiteers,
  2. May about to be ousted by a no confidence vote, triggering a leadership election,
  3. The Tory Party are about to split,
  4. Brexiteers are in disarray fighting amongst themselves,
  5. We will remain in the EU,
  6. We get an EEA deal,
  7. We will get no deal,
  8. A People's vote is inevitable and
  9. There will be a General Election.

Which only serves to merely highlight just how little of a clue ANYONE has about what happens next.

What bothers me now, is that Johnson seems not to have surfaced yet and there are rumours that Gove has gone to ground, whilst Donald Trump is practically on the plane and is stirring the pot praising Johnson.

Instead we seem to have a series of junior ministers and Tory HQ figures quitting in a long drawn out coordinated toy throwing out of the pram exercise, to try and get what hard brexiteers want.

If I had to hazard a guess at the general silence from key figures, I might be tempted to say that someone is going to use Trump's visit to throw a political grenade and actively invite him to endorse them.

That might sound ridiculous given that the public hates Trump, but that loses sight of the fact that the people who will vote for the next leader of the Tory Party are overwhelming authoritarian leaning and likely to be those who like Trump and would be impressed by such a move.

I note this tweet today from the wise Sarah Kendzior:

Sarah Kendzior @sarahkendzior
"There are parallels to past authoritarianism, but what's happening with Trump, in the digital age, is new and transnational. The president's loyalty is not necessarily to a state but to foreign leaders and multinational criminal alliances. The state is just something to sell."

It is clear that others in the parliamentary party will be very alarmed at the prospect. There were Tory MPs who were openly tweeted how please that disgusting Johnson had gone and are no fans of Trump.

May still seems to think that she can get her plan through and approved by the EU in its current form. The White Paper is due on Thursday.

Much speculation is that it will be significant if she fails to produce this on time, as she will have capitulated to the Brexiteers. And this will lead to the EU just giving up on us anyway.

She also announced to the Cabinet today, that preparations for No Deal were to be stepped up significantly.

We still are left wondering who, she is stitching up; the Brexiteers whose heads are currently exploding or the friends she keeps closest to her (friends? or ideological enemies).

The problem is that there just no other viable way forward at the moment, as the country is divided, both Labour and the Conservatives are divided and are more interested in their own future than that of the party and there are far too many ambitious 'celebrity MPs' who want to make their mark. No one gives a shit about ordinary workers or business. Plus there is the divine observation that DGRossetti made at the end of the last thread: The biggest obstacle to Brexit has been Brexiteers

The grab for post-Brexit power shows the whole of Westminister up as the cess pit of self interest it is, with Boris Johnson merely its biggest figure head.

Wait until the GFA officially has its head put on the chopping block awaiting its fate. Perhaps we can flog NI to Donald and get a Brexit Dividend afterall.

I must admit to finding it hard to have a view that is altogether different to this:
James Patrick @J_amesp
There is no way back from all of this. The next seven days simply decide how badly - on a scale of fucked to smouldering crater - it is going to end.

One final predictation, which I am DAMN certain of: Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all going to be grim for political watching if you are into democratic values and principles. It will be a 4 day sales pitch for Brand Trump in all its All American Overblown Horror that Brits tend to find utterly distasteful. Expect the red carpet of full of turd glitter to be rolled out for Donald Trump Show. Expect May to embarass herself in her fawning all over him, as if she's star struck. Expect that hideously cringeworthy photo thats totally inevitable.

Politics is going to get worse. It may never get better.

(But yay football gets to cover it all up... Come on England!)

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DGRossetti · 16/07/2018 10:50

But at least the Queen has now got the message out there that Brexit. Is. Complicated.

Has the Express or Telegraph run a headline declaring her a traitor ?

On a more serious note, has anyone even tried to contradict that in the press ? And been held to it by the questioner ?

So in essence, you are saying the Queen was wrong ?

Not that the Queens views should hold any significance (you can tell I'm a conflicted republican). However, she is (or should be) spectacularly well advised.

DGRossetti · 16/07/2018 10:50

And while the weekend of rewriting goes on, all businesses that trade with the EU have to stop and hold their breath to find out what the new rules will be.

Well, that's one option. There are others ....

woman11017 · 16/07/2018 10:55

all businesses that trade with the EU have to stop and hold their breath
That ship has sailed. Most of them have. That's why she smirks when she confirms a ban on free movement. For us.

DGRossetti · 16/07/2018 10:56

It seems a massive flaw in the FPTP system is when an extreme party enters the fray (UKIP) and steals votes from an established party, the resulting split vote fear seems to lead the established party towards, rather than away from extremism.

Which should be the final nail in the coffin for that load of bollocks canard that FPTP protects us from extremists.

That said, I think any "threat" from UKIP is illusory - I can't see them re-engaging the unengaged a second time. That's the problem with the politically unengaged

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lonelyplanetmum · 16/07/2018 11:44

Has the Express or Telegraph [ no longer the mail] run a headline declaring her a traitor ?

Grin 👑

And she married an EU foreigner more Danish than Greek apparently.

Peregrina · 16/07/2018 12:15

prettybird - bawbag - such a useful word which standard English doesn't have. Just hits the spot like Thatcher's 'frit'.

DGRossetti · 16/07/2018 12:20

bawbag - such a useful word which standard English doesn't have

Arguably it does now Smile.

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." --James D. Nicoll

In a way, it's a shame there isn't an "English Academy" that we'd all enjoy sticking two fingers up to

Yaralie · 17/07/2018 19:49

There are a lot of not very complimentary words we could justifiably apply to Donald Trump.

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