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Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 17:29

Where next?

Auditions for chief turd polisher to Mrs May are in full action, whilst those who don't believe in the turd, wade about knee deep in their own shit, still searching for that illusive plan for Brexit which doesn't stink to high heaven of crap.

After the dual resignation of Davis and Johnson, amongst the stench there is an air of uncertainity and expectation of all hell breaking loose.

In the last 48 hours we have been told that

  1. May is more secure having crushed the brexiteers,
  2. May about to be ousted by a no confidence vote, triggering a leadership election,
  3. The Tory Party are about to split,
  4. Brexiteers are in disarray fighting amongst themselves,
  5. We will remain in the EU,
  6. We get an EEA deal,
  7. We will get no deal,
  8. A People's vote is inevitable and
  9. There will be a General Election.

Which only serves to merely highlight just how little of a clue ANYONE has about what happens next.

What bothers me now, is that Johnson seems not to have surfaced yet and there are rumours that Gove has gone to ground, whilst Donald Trump is practically on the plane and is stirring the pot praising Johnson.

Instead we seem to have a series of junior ministers and Tory HQ figures quitting in a long drawn out coordinated toy throwing out of the pram exercise, to try and get what hard brexiteers want.

If I had to hazard a guess at the general silence from key figures, I might be tempted to say that someone is going to use Trump's visit to throw a political grenade and actively invite him to endorse them.

That might sound ridiculous given that the public hates Trump, but that loses sight of the fact that the people who will vote for the next leader of the Tory Party are overwhelming authoritarian leaning and likely to be those who like Trump and would be impressed by such a move.

I note this tweet today from the wise Sarah Kendzior:

Sarah Kendzior @sarahkendzior
"There are parallels to past authoritarianism, but what's happening with Trump, in the digital age, is new and transnational. The president's loyalty is not necessarily to a state but to foreign leaders and multinational criminal alliances. The state is just something to sell."

It is clear that others in the parliamentary party will be very alarmed at the prospect. There were Tory MPs who were openly tweeted how please that disgusting Johnson had gone and are no fans of Trump.

May still seems to think that she can get her plan through and approved by the EU in its current form. The White Paper is due on Thursday.

Much speculation is that it will be significant if she fails to produce this on time, as she will have capitulated to the Brexiteers. And this will lead to the EU just giving up on us anyway.

She also announced to the Cabinet today, that preparations for No Deal were to be stepped up significantly.

We still are left wondering who, she is stitching up; the Brexiteers whose heads are currently exploding or the friends she keeps closest to her (friends? or ideological enemies).

The problem is that there just no other viable way forward at the moment, as the country is divided, both Labour and the Conservatives are divided and are more interested in their own future than that of the party and there are far too many ambitious 'celebrity MPs' who want to make their mark. No one gives a shit about ordinary workers or business. Plus there is the divine observation that DGRossetti made at the end of the last thread: The biggest obstacle to Brexit has been Brexiteers

The grab for post-Brexit power shows the whole of Westminister up as the cess pit of self interest it is, with Boris Johnson merely its biggest figure head.

Wait until the GFA officially has its head put on the chopping block awaiting its fate. Perhaps we can flog NI to Donald and get a Brexit Dividend afterall.

I must admit to finding it hard to have a view that is altogether different to this:
James Patrick @J_amesp
There is no way back from all of this. The next seven days simply decide how badly - on a scale of fucked to smouldering crater - it is going to end.

One final predictation, which I am DAMN certain of: Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all going to be grim for political watching if you are into democratic values and principles. It will be a 4 day sales pitch for Brand Trump in all its All American Overblown Horror that Brits tend to find utterly distasteful. Expect the red carpet of full of turd glitter to be rolled out for Donald Trump Show. Expect May to embarass herself in her fawning all over him, as if she's star struck. Expect that hideously cringeworthy photo thats totally inevitable.

Politics is going to get worse. It may never get better.

(But yay football gets to cover it all up... Come on England!)

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RedToothBrush · 11/07/2018 21:39

Ah well we can go back to English miserableness. Normality returns.

But don't get too down.

Donnie's coming tomorrow!!!!

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woman11017 · 11/07/2018 21:40

No worries scooby Smile I am too young too, but I read stuff. Particularly I've looked at male led fascist regimes over the last few hundred years in the west.

Without doubt that is where we are going. A cross between Yugoslavia, Biafra and the disgusting war our own government waged on the Irish people. Half of a Yellow Sun by the great Chimomandie Adichie is yet another example of how everyday middle class life can be thrown into starving disarray by gangster men politicians. In that case, Nigeria. The descriptions of starving might be useful for The Sun to start printing. Starving is not dramatic, that's why it's such a very useful tool.

Indigenous incivililty and foolishness bodes badly for food and energy crises.

If this country was a MN husband the advice would be LTB.

GaspodeWonderCat · 11/07/2018 21:41

They think it's all over ... it is now Sad

54321go · 11/07/2018 21:42

Interesting comment from a European friend today saying that despite the ruckus in Germany over 'immigrants' the 20,000 or so that have settled have helped the German economy improve, and it wasn't bad before.
I wonder if the London underground will be playing the Croation National anthem tomorrow. Apparently the French NA was played in Brussels this morning. There was a reciprocal bet if Belgium had won.

DGRossetti · 11/07/2018 21:44

Of course the City ("Big bang" - I had to do a piece on it for my degree) was Thatchers gift to the nation. You might argue over it's dividends being shared ... but now they are being pissed away.

By Tories ....

BrexitWife · 11/07/2018 21:47

Why couldnt we remind him of that before, like during the referendum campaign??

Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade
OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 11/07/2018 21:49

Donnie's coming tomorrow!!!!
YAY!!!! No, hang on, wait....... Shit

I wonder if the London underground will be playing the Croation National anthem tomorrow. Apparently the French NA was played in Brussels this morning. There was a reciprocal bet if Belgium had won.
I love this

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2018 21:50

Every journalist and MP right now:

Gaby Hinsliff @ gabyhinsliff
Oh god we’re going to have to talk about Brexit again now

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BrexitWife · 11/07/2018 21:50

There is also a lot of talk about the fact that, wo immigration, the population in the EU is declining.
With the obvious isssues coming with it.

The U.K. wouod have the same issue wo immigration (aimmigrant with a higher natality rate too)

So whilst there is a problem in how you can accommodate immigrants and refugees like this, the reality is that we need them just as much as they need us.

MissBartlettsconscience · 11/07/2018 22:07

I'm so glad we're not playing France in the final. The brexit press would be making the negotiations even worse...

SusanWalker · 11/07/2018 22:10

We might still come third, which would be a pretty good result considering we weren't supposed to get very far in the first place. And I'm glad that if we're not winning a European country is.

HesterThrale · 11/07/2018 22:10

I wouldn't put it past Boris to now decide (that his best chance of getting enough support in Parliament to advance himself is) to decide to do a 'heroic' u-turn and declare that remaining is best for the country.

woman11017 · 11/07/2018 22:13

I'm so glad we're not playing France in the final. The brexit press would be making the negotiations even worse
Football and politics, funny old business:
The entire English soccer team gave the Nazi salute — for diplomacy’s sake
It was part of the British government’s plan to appease Hitler

Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade
Danniz · 11/07/2018 22:16

Presumably most of this is about a handful of people getting their hands on a huge amount of money, power and status. Or do any of them really care that much about the ideology of sovereignty?

54321go · 11/07/2018 22:17

At this point, or in fact any point in the last 2 years, remaining IS the best option, although now tarnished and is simply the least bad option.
Boris shouldn't get any credit for saying it (again?).

Icantreachthepretzels · 11/07/2018 22:46

I think even if we lose on Saturday (and we have already lost to Belgium once) top 4 is bloody good! But I think overall it is better that we aren't in the final - as we have too much important shit going on right now to be keeping focusing on football (and if we won we would be focusing on that for the next 52 years!).
Plus the resulting nationalism/ xenophobia would have been ugly.
This is a good result, and we should be pleased with it. It's way better than anyone realistically thought we would do at the beginning.

Over on the AIBU brexit thread started by Bertram Russell (the poster - not the philosopher) I posted this link
www.peoples-vote.uk/petition
I'm sure all the regulars already have... but anyone who hasn't got round to it yet, anyone new to the thread and anyone who sporadically lurks (I did for over a year before jumping in) please do sign it. It takes less than 30 seconds - and we need a huge number of signatories.

lonelyplanetmum · 11/07/2018 22:49

David Cameron's tweeting again...

Lots of replies along these lines
" No! You dont get to say anything you pig-shagging nobody who sold the country down the river."

Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade
HesterThrale · 11/07/2018 22:51

This article posted by Cailleach1 is utterly damning of Boris as Foreign Sec. Forget Brexit for a moment: it's going to take a long time to repair the UK's international reputation because of his antics. That was the other side of the risk TM took when she appointed him. I suppose she wanted him on the inside pissing out, during Brexit negotiations. But don't forget that, abroad, he was for 2 years doing massive damage on every front because he. just. didn't. give. a. monkey's.

And then at home, to boot, it transpires that he was on the inside pissing IN.

www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/other/the-germans-hate-him-remembering-boris-johnsons-time-as-foreign-secretary

woman11017 · 11/07/2018 22:56

Boris is pimped, a pimp, and quite handy round journalists. He should be on trial for any number of crimes eg. London Bridge.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/01/boris-johnson-defends-garden-bridge-plan-that-will-cost-public-46m
He may well be appointed PM this weekend however, by the creature.

TheElementsSong · 12/07/2018 05:00

Goodness, that AIBU thread is an orgy of furious wilful ignorance and shooting the messenger, isn’t it?

MrHoolieswaistcoat · 12/07/2018 06:27

Brexitwife re your post at 21.47 - the irony/arrogance of BJ accusing the British people of ‘sloth’ when he’s a complete lazy fucker himself.
I’m wondering how much of all the coverage about him he’s reading.
I remember an episode of Outnumbered when they had a German exchange student staying who thought that BJ being Mayor of London was part of a sitcom and they had to keep explain that, no, he actually was Mayor of London.
Whatever you thought of Ken Livingstone, he worked his arse off when he was Mayor and was passionate about London whereas BJ just lost interest after a couple of years and did fuck all apart from throw away £46m on that stupid garden bridge vanity project. BlackAdder in a blond wig is a perfect description.

EmilyAlice · 12/07/2018 06:38

That AIBU thread is bizarre. There is a similar recent one on Gransnet with all the blame cast on Remainers, the EU, failure to pull together etc etc. I know it is all about cognitive dissonance on steroids, but I do wonder how people can be quite so willfully ignorant of reality.

frumpety · 12/07/2018 06:57

I thought last night that the Brexiteers on these threads had gone a bit quiet. Hardly surprising, nobody knows what Brexit means, except they voted for it and it means Brexit Hmm

HesterThrale · 12/07/2018 07:05

Not sure I want to get up!

mobile.twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1017286341074341888

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DGRossetti · 12/07/2018 07:07

History will probably show that Brexit was why we lost what little democracy we had. Just point to the level of discussion around the interwebs and say "would you trust that lot with the vote ?^

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