Westminstenders: Rebel or Reveal

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The EU Withdrawal Bill made it through the Commons. Though May did not manage it unscathed.

In an attempt to divide and conquer the Rebels, May might have damaged trust. We shall find out. The Grieve Amendment faces the Lords. We also will see if the Lords will back down on their amendments or apply some new ones for the Commons to deal with in Parliamentary Ping Pong.

Aaron Banks has been exposed as being pally with the Russian Embassy in a plot twist that absolutely everyone saw coming.

Meanwhile the EU thinks we have already run out of time and is preparing options to extend talks beyond the a50 deadline. These include having MEPs for the 2019 - 2024 session.

There is also growing talk around Europe that freedom of movement in its current form is unsustainable. Ironically we might see the EU adopt something akin to Cameron's pre-referendum proposals as the EU reforms.

Theresa May has also announced - at a moment when she is looking particularly weak - a new tax for the NHS, cunningly disguised in spin as 'the Brexit dividend'. Of course shareholders don't always get dividends and at times of poor economic performance instead might be asked to stump up extra capital...Expect to see buses with £350 million of the side just in time for the next general election cycle.

And so the Zombie PM limbers on towards the end of the summer session and the relative safety of the summer holidays. More drama, cringing and disbelief guaranteed before we get there.

I thought tradition had it that Scots(men) in kilts went 'commando'.
Not sure I really want to know the truth mind you!

'Tis true 54321go

....although I'm not sure 17 year old ds will be following that tradition when he wears his dad's kilt to his prom next Monday!

.....and now I've got carry on up the Khyber in my mind!!!

A bit off topic but prettybird do they do Scottish dancing still in Scottish schools?

I did it in my English primary

I can do a lovely sir Roger de coverly 😁

I don't mind stripping the willow mrsR.

I was offered a kilt by my cousin when I was early teens.
I declined as I lived 'south of Watford' and didn't think it appropriate.

We do soon need to look a step further on immigration, for e.g. health and education. We take professionals from countries who have spent time and money training them, and who really need to keep them. I've always felt uncomfortable about that.
Really we need to bite the bullet and invest in training all the staff we need. I presume that means massive extra investment, but also an investigation into why we can't recruit and retain enough people in those professions.
We always automatically assume we can bring staff in from elsewhere to plug gaps.

They do indeed Woman

Ds left primary school able to do the Gay Gordon's and the Dashing White Sergeant. They also did "Social Dancing" (aka Scottish Country Dancing) during PSE at secondary.

I did those two dances in primary, a long time ago when the names didn't mean what they do now.

@Hester
We used to be good at the training, maybe we still are, but lose them once qualified.

Ds left primary school able to do the Gay Gordon's and the Dashing White Sergeant
Brilliant! We did them too in the olden days! Jimmy Shand and his Band!

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/18/eu-could-cancel-brexit-security-deal-uk-quits-european-court/

If Britain leaves the European Convention of Human Rights after Brexit, it will trigger a “guillotine clause” that will nullify any UK-EU security partnership to fight crime and terrorism, under plans suggested by Brussels.

The security agreement would also be cancelled if the European Commission or the European Court of Justice decided that UK data protection standards did not match EU standards, according to slides presented by the commission to EU 27 diplomats.

So we might get a little bit of protection after all....

54321go
We used to be good at the training, maybe we still are, but lose them once qualified

You may be right, 54321.
I know at my surgery, the GPs have all gone part-time, as apparently it's too stressful doing full-time. Thereby creating a shortage, and several weeks' wait for appointments. I have sympathy for them.
There's something wrong somewhere.

The EU is willing to lose access to our security apparatus? Good luck to them if that happens!

At our surgery ft is considered 8 shifts per week

And we lose access to 27 countries each with security apparatus.

Mrs May first raised the threat of a deal based, in part, on the UK continuing to co-operate with the EU27 on security and defence. It would seem that the EU27 has done research and decided that the loss of access to the UK security apparatus is something they can manage without if necessary.

...and there is only one gp who does that...

I have memories from Uni of being the only person amongst 8 who knew how to do the Eightsome Reel .....it's quite an art pushing directing 7 other people to do a Grand Chain!

...the perils of going to an "English" Uni, albeit one technically in Scotland!

"Don't they know who we are?"

So we might get a little bit of protection after all....
Cheering! Albeit amazing that we are being held hostage by may's loons for our human rights. HOL is pretty spicy too atm!

I never thought I would defend an institution of unelected representatives!

And yet the HofL has proved again and again why it's so important to have people who vote with their conscience, not their party whip.

After a bit of a wild rant and a little work;;;
Training and radical engineering feats, harking back to the Victorian times the British were 'ahead of the game' in so many fields or at least on a par with others managing magnificent engineering projects. Mind you the life of 'navvies' doing the digging was not far off hell.
Much of Europe's infrastructure was bombed to bits by those plucky Brits and friends but afterwards an incredible amount of money went into rebuilding and improving what had been in Europe. Britain got some sticking plaster and covered over the cracks of a worn out railway system and roads. So much of what we have now was built by the Victorians and is not really fit for purpose.

Just to amend/correct you 54321go - the UK got much more Marshall Aid than France or Germany, supposedly to help re-build our infrastructure. However, unlike France and Germany , the UK chose to use its Marshall Aid to try to hold on to its fading Empire

Many thanks to BigChocFrenzy for pointing that out in earlier threads, as that is not the impression we were given in history teaching, when Marshall Aid was taught about . I then went away and did my own research which confirmed BigChocFrenzy's comments.

I need the recipe for that sugar free pavlova.