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bearbehind · 03/05/2018 10:36

Since BrexitArmsLandlady says she isn't starting anymore threads here's a place to discuss Brexit developments for those that still want to.

It never ceases to amaze me what a shambles this is.

The cabinet still can't even agree what we want, let alone what we're going to get.

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Helmetbymidnight · 16/07/2018 07:24

Ooh Justine greening calls for a 2 nd ref today.

54321go · 16/07/2018 07:34

@Frumpety
I think I read somewhere that at least some of the costs can be forwarded to the UK.

54321go · 16/07/2018 07:37

The European commission said a while ago that it had put aside over a Trillion Euro to help cover costs incurred by Brexit.

frumpety · 16/07/2018 07:40

I presume that some of that trillion will have to come from the UK though as we are still currently members of the EU ?

frumpety · 16/07/2018 07:41

And it is entirely the fault of the UK that these measures are having to be put in place Sad

frumpety · 16/07/2018 07:47

Remind me again how many millions DExEU has spent to date ?

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/cost-of-brexit-what-whitehall-spending-insight-final-vb_1.pdf

Interesting little link to how much Brexit has cost so far across government departments, spoiler alert , its lots !

Rosstac · 16/07/2018 08:01

frumpety So why didn’t the government think of this before putting the vote to the public, I still can’t believe how little work the government had done on a very obvious leave vote, it’s like every thing is a surprise to them now, They should have put a lot more work in pre the referendum on a leave vote, if they weren’t expecting a leave vote they needed to get out of London more

frumpety · 16/07/2018 08:13

While DExEU received pro bono work from the likes of Accenture, Deloitte and KPMG in 2016/17, it is now starting to spend, signing a £1.9m contract with McKinsey for six months of work in 2017. BEIS and Defra have both recently signed £1m contracts with The Boston Consulting Group.

Is it normal for private companies to do pro bono work for Government departments ? Genuine question ?

54321go · 16/07/2018 08:18

I would suspect there is a fair amount of 'nod and wink' dealing going on hiring extra 'consultants' at way over salaried rates.

time4chocolate · 16/07/2018 08:21

Oooh you are all really going for it this morning!

Well it’s reassuring to know that there is some actually planning going on behind the scenes at DEeXU. I think we can see that a lot of money has already been spent so it makes sense to see it through to the end does it not?

KennDodd · 16/07/2018 08:34

I think that's know as throwing good money after bad.

frumpety · 16/07/2018 08:36

Rosstac in answer to your question , the Leave campaign was only supposed to blow the bloody doors off , as Gove's wife is alleged to have said following the referendum result, not actually win.

time4chocolate · 16/07/2018 08:38

Well Kenn I think that’s a matter of opinion.

PineappleSunrise · 16/07/2018 08:38

Time, do you not have to eat or ever need medical treatment? Do you own your home outright? Why are you so keen to "see through" a UK economic depression that may last for the rest of your life?

Peregrina · 16/07/2018 08:44

Is it seeing it through to the end, or shutting the door after the horse has bolted? But to mix metaphors even further, it's more like that the Referendum let an evil genie out of the lamp.

DaisyTwirl · 16/07/2018 08:55

the Leave campaign was only supposed to blow the bloody doors off , as Gove's wife is alleged to have said following the referendum result, not actually win

But as Rosstac said, they only needed to step outside their bubble to see that Leave winning was a very real possibility.

Peregrina · 16/07/2018 09:02

Going by their faces the night the result was announced Gove and Johnson most definitely did not expect to win - there were no shouts of joy - they looked stunned.

frumpety · 16/07/2018 09:14

Step outside their bubble , difficult to do I guess when you earn nearly 3x the average UK salary plus generous expenses. Hmm

frumpety · 16/07/2018 09:18

Which will also explain why all these resignations haven't included resigning their position as MP, its all very scruple lite isn't it.

frumpety · 16/07/2018 09:25

I am not even sure if odious sex text fellow has resigned as an MP , I know he has resigned as a Minister ?

frumpety · 16/07/2018 09:38

How has the Government and Parliament allowed itself to continue on a journey that is going to cause significant harm to the UK simply to appease 26% of the population ?

54321go · 16/07/2018 09:47

Is it as much as 26% considering the 'leave' that was voted for will actually have a massive price tag for everyone except a handful.

54321go · 16/07/2018 09:48

A bit like popping into McBurgers and buying a 'top of the range' animal in a bun to find a bit of gristle and a week old lettuce leaf.

54321go · 16/07/2018 09:49

And would you like NON French fries with that?

MrHoolieswaistcoat · 16/07/2018 10:00

Peregrina I totally agree they never expected to win - their faces and body language really did say it all. They looked like 2 schoolboys who had played a trick that had gone horribly wrong.
Compare that to Fromage’s rantings about a ‘victory for ordinary people, for decent people’ etc and asking June 24th to go down in British history as our ‘Independence Day’.