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Ever closer to Brexit! 🥂 🍻 🍾

Remainers are welcome, as ever.

But!

If you just want to abuse Brexiteers, then start your own thread.

This is a pub thread, not an interrogate-a-Brexiteer thread

We have more in common etc, even if Brexit divides us.

...and Scotland didn't get more "because of the oil". The Barnett formula was originally devised to take into account the greater costs in dealing with the Scottish geography and demographic.

Iirc, NI actually gets more per head.

No, I’m ignoring the fact that you seem to think that Scotland is not part of the UK:

Don't Scotland get more spending per head per year than the UK..

You mean England, not the UK.

The Barnett formula doesn’t just cover Scotland but includes NI and Wales, and is a mechanism for the Treasury to allocate extra funding - or cuts - from Westminster according to the population size of each nation and which powers are devolved to them.

And no, it’s not accepted that Scotland gets more public spending due to oil - Wales and NI get more public spending from the Barnett formula too. Nothing to do with oil.

It also makes the £1 billion bung to the DUP interesting, as it was done as a block grant to avoid the Barnett formula.

And incidentally, up until 2014, when the oil price nose dived, Scotland’s per capita tax revenues were greater than the UK average.

So you now agree that Scotland does get more ....... after all there has been rather a loss of oil revenue...
Budgets can still make a defercite.....

So you now agree that Scotland does get more ....... after all there has been rather a loss of oil revenue...

FFS mummmy

How specific do I need to be - the Barnett formula quite clearly lays out how the funding works. You can look it up for yourself.

In fact, here’s a handy link for you:

medium.com/sky-news/the-barnett-formula-myths-and-reality-4f99d7dcdda3

So if it's all laid at MT fault.... TB when he was in power could have upped taxes for the rich and invested the money....

On that, I can agree with you mummmy - the fact is that successive Westminster governments, both left and rightwing, squandered the oil dividend without thinking of the future when it runs out

In fact, worse, they used it to build an economy with an over-reliance on financial services and an over-heated South East Regional inequality increased during this period.

Remember that bollocks that we were going to feed ourselves (somehow) ?

Seems we can't even grow enough straw for the livestock

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43821985

Thank God the US is standing by to airlift chlorinated chicken and hormone pumped beef to the UK , eh ?

mummmy or hey do you have any practical suggestions yet or are you still just insisting we should persue hard Brexit for no other reason than you want to?

Any ideas for a border solution?

Any alternatives to remaining in SM/CU that might actually work?

Nope... Just never saw how it would work... as too many chiefs..

mummmy, hard Brexit cannot and will not happen.

It’s too detrimental to the UK.

Not even TM will push that button so we’re going to end up with whatever her team can negotiate, which isn’t looking promising right now.

But bear... i think brexit can not be stopped.
The EU have said it is happening....
To think It won't is a betrayal of the political system and shows your now clutching at straws.

BINO will happen.

Leavers will be told we've left but actually not much will change and what does change will be for the worse.

God your such an old pessimist Bear aren't you. Are you like this with everything in life?

I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist.

You show me how anything other than BINO can possibly work and I'll listen.

Mummy you are being most splendiferously divisive today , are you suggesting that the UK should also leave the UK , as well as the EU ? You don't seem to be awfully keen on Scotland , Northern Ireland are being a tad pesky and the Welsh are probably going to want all the money the EU currently send them the unpatriotic so and so's

Britain back to 5th largest economy now?
I saw it somewhere earlier - not sure where though (France has moved down to 7th?)

Record employment, lowest unemployment level since 1975, inflation down, wage growth improving, tech investment surge, London office rentals soaring - and all 'despite' Brexit!

And to top it all off, much fun watching Owen 'squealer' Jones self-destruct in a fit of virtue-signalling, foot-stamping pique!

Happy days indeed 😊

And to top it all off, much fun watching Owen 'squealer' Jones self-destruct in a fit of virtue-signalling, foot-stamping pique!

Bella if it was that much fun , you should at least share a link, spread the joy and all that

Super to hear that the UK economy is still performing well despite us not having left the EU

The music industry also expressing grave concerns but hey, they're just miserable pessimists. 🙄

And do you think Britain was/is strong economically despite its EU membership then?

Or do you think the two might be linked?

I was led to believe that any good news (at all, about anything) must be prefixed with 'despite Brexit' Cobblers.

Frumpety, it's on Twitter - he's slagged off every group possible up til now, but the mental & verbal gymnastics he's been deploying since doubting the messiah last year are approaching crescendo it seems.

He's so desperate to get back in the fold that he's now massively overcompensating.

Quote from a meeting at Downing Street about Brexit, specifically about staying in a CU

We wouldn’t cry into our beer if we were forced to do this. The PM needs to go through the choreography of trying to leave but we might be forced to do it.

Exactly what many of us have been saying for ages; this is all a charade. When are Leavers going to wake up to the fact they're being played.

When are Leavers going to wake up to the fact they're being played.

Remember, some of them are a bit dim ... they may never realise.

(For some reason I have just remembered Alun Cochrane doing a routine about going round a supermarket, and keeping his 3 year old happy by giving him a block of cheese as a phone )

I love a bit of virtue signalling , I think it is up there as one of my top 10 skills Bella

Lets not forget the SM , we need to stay in the SM and the CU. We shall do this and leave at the same time , it will be marvellous, best of both worlds and a new rather gorgeous French navy passport , honestly what's not to like ?

Done 3 10hr shifts and need some music , you are welcome , play this as loud as your foundations will allow