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Ever closer to Brexit! 🥂 🍻 🍾

Remainers are welcome, as ever.

But!

If you just want to abuse Brexiteers, then start your own thread.

This is a pub thread, not an interrogate-a-Brexiteer thread

We have more in common etc, even if Brexit divides us.

The honest figure is in the region of - £350M/wk if we are very lucky.

No it's not.

In the 2016/17 financial year it was £234 million per week (after rebate).

In 2014/15 it was £275 million per week; in 2016/17 it was £250 million per week.

I think the EU will collapse and it will be too late anyway

More precisely, you (and Putin) hope that somehow the EU collapses so that this Brexit starts making a bit of sense. You know it is not very likely, but you continue being Putin's useful person anyway.

I love this defending of our Foreign Secretary (you know, the chap responsible for our international relationships) blurting out something without evidence, but then sweeping any evidence of manipulation under the carpet. Doublethink at it's best.

And that figure will be rising as I said up thread he wants a bigger EU budget.

I love this defending of our Foreign Secretary (you know, the chap responsible for our international relationships) blurting out something without evidence, but then sweeping any evidence of manipulation under the carpet. Doublethink at it's best.

Who's done that?

Who is defending Boris?

And we all love the "I think the EU is going to collapse based on not a single shred of evidence but I want it to happen because otherwise I look like an idiot" line.

london sounding a little crazed there ...

The legendary Brexit Domino effect

Oh, the picture didn't show up the first time.

Never mind, it's worth repeating...

And who defended the figure on the bus?

And who defended Farage?
Or Bannon?
Or Banks?
Or Farage's poster?
Or CA?

I see no evidence of that, yet you confidently make a sweeping assertion of 'defending' & 'doublethink' - based on what?

@Bellatron

You still don't understand, do you?

The net result of Brexit will include items such:

• Loss to the financial services
• Loss of inward investment
• Losses to the automotive industry in the event of hard brexit
• Ongoing cost of implementation of Brexit
• Impact of any tarrifs

etc

As you can see the Leave.EU conmen conveniently dropped almost all potential and certain negative effects of Brexit from the equation. The number wasn't even a result of forecast. Nothing, it's just pure manipulation.

BoJo famously defended the figure on the bus on live television!

Farage's poster was not removed, and was allowed to peddle it's racist dog whistling all through the election.

Brexiteers are carefully trying to avoid saying much about CA, because they know it will weaken their claim to "The people have spoken".

Bannon and Banks are still out there trying to manipulate to serve their own ends.

The number wasn't even a result of forecast. Nothing, it's just pure manipulation.

It was based on the verified figures of the previous year.

The problem was that it did not subtract the rebate. That was disingenuous.

Their message would have had just as much of an impact based on the actual post-rebate figure though, so it baffles me why they didn't run with that.

I’m going to bite back .... the EU is just not working london . Unemployment is massively high in Italy Spain and Greece, Southern Europe is doing dreadfully and those countries cannot not kick start their economies because all those decisions have to come through Brussels, for a too broader group.

It’s dying a death and the rest of Europe are watching to see how it pans out so they can leave and drain all the money from this money Pitt.

I’m waiting to see what’s going to happen with Italy’s banks and the effects it’s going to have on the euro zone rather than continuously weeping about a fucking bus.

But the bus, but the bus, but the bus, but the bus ..........

Even the "genuine" figure was a lie though, because it told nothing of the huge financial benefit that the UK gets as a member of the SM and CU.

*BoJo famously defended the figure on the bus on live television!

Farage's poster was not removed, and was allowed to peddle it's racist dog whistling all through the election.

Bannon and Banks are still out there trying to manipulate to serve their own ends.*

Nobody is disputing that on here - so I still fail to understand where you got this from:
"I love this defending of our Foreign Secretary"

I also don't agree with this assertion:
"Brexiteers are carefully trying to avoid saying much about CA, because they know it will weaken their claim to "The people have spoken"."

The people have spoken, they voted to Leave. It may upset you to realise that people (shock!) think differently to you, but they do.

@Bellatron

You STILL don't get it??? That's amazing.

NHS would only see any extra money if the EU contribution in our pocket was the only financial effect of Brexit! Clearly, it's not going to be the case, in fact the impact on financial services alone is likely to negate the bus figure.

Oh, sorry, maybe nobody actually did defend BoJo.

But, as we know, it's all about the feelz.

Even the "genuine" figure was a lie though,

Nope.
Entirely based on fact.

Did you not read the rest of the post?

Or is it too complex for you?

I love that "based on fact".

I.e. "it's a lie, but has a factual figure in it to make it seem like it's not"

*Did you not read the rest of the post?

Or is it too complex for you?*

It's not me that seems to be having an ongoing struggle with reading and comprehension.

You're projecting somewhat.

*I love that "based on fact".

I.e. "it's a lie, but has a factual figure in it to make it seem like it's not"*

The figure was fact.
Ergo, the statement is based on that fact.

Its not me that seems to have trouble understanding that we didn't just give money to the EU and get nothing in return...