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Westminstenders: Exit 2020 Vision

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 18:02

Yet it is a great mistake to suppose that the only writers who matter are those whom the educated in their saner moments can take seriously. There exists a subterranean world where pathological fantasies disguised as ideas are churned out by crooks and half-educated fanatics for the benefit of the ignorant and the superstitious. There are times when this underworld emerges from the depths and suddenly fascinates, capturers and dominates multitudes of usually sane and responsible people, who thereupon take leave of sanity and responsibility. And it occasionally happens that this underworld becomes a political power and changes the course of history.
Norm Cohn ‘Warrant for Genocide’ 1970

(As referenced by Nick Cohen).

We have a deal (or bits of a deal). Bino til Dec 2020. Then the cliff?

Still a long way to go. It sounds better than it could be. But worse than it initially seems.

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Hasenstein · 19/03/2018 20:38

John Crace has nailed it in the Guardian as usual. Poor old DD probably wishes he'd retired early.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/19/barnier-tickled-pink-as-british-red-lines-and-davis-turn-green

RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 20:39

emily m @ maitlis
Tonight on #newsnight we have an EXLUSIVE broadcast interview with @CamAnalytica ceo Alexander Nix. Facebook, Data harvesting and the ethics of what his company does.

This was tweeted two hours ago. Before c4 broadcast.

emily m @ maitlis
"The Guardian...have been propagating a lot of this misinformation or fake news" - Alexander Nix on the media's portrayal of Cambridge Analytica #newsnight

Pre recorded interview.

So this looks like the angle the bbc have taken.... hope its better than this looks at face value

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 20:42

In response to the maitlis tweet with video of nix:

Krishnan Guru-Murthy @ krishgm
To be clear : He said this without seeing any of the #c4news
#CambridgeAnalyticaUncovered film and used the BBC to get a rebuttal out before they had seen it either so they couldn't ask him about what he'd been secretly filmed saying. Not a bad media strategy - anyone fooled?

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woman11017 · 19/03/2018 20:43

Will be interesting to see how the beeb covers it
It's our fault.......and it does't matter.

And it may be the case that the influence of this company is much overblown

A new era is upon us, in which the data of masses have made a few firms massively rich. The masses need to think harder about what that means for them

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43461779
(in entertainment and arts section of bbc website Hmm)

The pro brexit demographic is in reverse in 2020 according to OFOC.

Sostenueto · 19/03/2018 21:00

Thanks red.

RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:01

Bulletin for bbc news at ten doesn't wven mention CA.

Driverless cars killing people but not CA.

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DrivenToDespair · 19/03/2018 21:03

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:04

Meanwhile the bygone age of politics is summed up by this:

Esther Webber @ estwebber
Lords debating how medical devices will be regulated after Brexit - peers declaring interests left right and centre as recipients of hip/knee replacements

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:05

Driven, no it hasn't. Bbc has lost the plot.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/03/2018 21:05
RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:11

www.gregpalast.com/cambridge-analytica-aint-nuthin-look-i360-datatrust/
Cambridge Analytica Ain’t Nuthin:
Look Out For i360 And Data Trust

I fear this is the truth... CA are, just one of many. But crooks no less.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/03/2018 21:17

Ha, just posted this on the trump thread:

Andy Wigmore
@andywigmore
@CamAnalytica are finished but there are a hundred more CA hovering in the background with the next adaptation of a marketing technique waiting to be launched used and abused

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/03/2018 21:26

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
BREAKING: Facebook WAS inside Cambridge Analytica's office but have now "stood down" following dramatic intervention by UK Information Commissioner's Office..
The ICO is trying to get a warrant tonight to go in tonight. BUT no judge available...
Team being assembled for tomorrow morning...

DGRossetti · 19/03/2018 21:32

The ICO is trying to get a warrant tonight to go in tonight. BUT no judge available...

Sorry, but bollocks ... imagine them shredding as we speak ?????? (Yes, I know it's 2018)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/03/2018 21:33

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
"Won't they be deleting everything right now?"
"Hopefully not."

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/03/2018 21:42

Brendan Hughes
@brendanhughes64

DUP paid almost £33,000 to Cambridge Analytica-linked firm AggregrateIQ for its #Brexit campaign for the EU referendum

www.irishnews.com/news/2017/05/11/news/dup-s-brexit-campaign-spent-33-000-on-social-media-micro-targeting-firm-1023022/

#CambridgeAnalyticaUncovered

RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:45

Reuters Business @ reutersbiz
JUST IN: European Commission says, if confirmed, the misuse of Facebook personal data for political purposes is unacceptable $FB

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:46

What’s up with this “wait til the morning” business?

Its the sound of drilled hard drives and typewriters being installed.

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:48

There must be no judges on social media that can be contacted.

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woman11017 · 19/03/2018 21:50

No judge available Courage fail.

DrivenToDespair · 19/03/2018 21:51

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woman11017 · 19/03/2018 21:53

@Haggis_UK
Baroness Butler-Sloss - if a vote in the House of Commons rejects the deal... what will the government do?

Lord Callanan - We hope Parliament won't reject the deal but in such circumstances that would be an instruction to move on without a deal. 😲

Duh.

RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 21:55

Rees-Moog is doing a fish flinging stunt tomorrow.

Something to look forward to.

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2018 22:02

amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/19/where-is-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-ceo-cambridge-analytica-scandal?__twitter_impression=true
Where's Zuck? Facebook CEO silent as data harvesting scandal unfolds
Amid calls for investigation and a #DeleteFacebook campaign, company releases an official statement but its figurehead keeps quiet

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