Westminstenders: Exit 2020 Vision

[RedToothBrush]

Yet it is a great mistake to suppose that the only writers who matter are those whom the educated in their saner moments can take seriously. There exists a subterranean world where pathological fantasies disguised as ideas are churned out by crooks and half-educated fanatics for the benefit of the ignorant and the superstitious. There are times when this underworld emerges from the depths and suddenly fascinates, capturers and dominates multitudes of usually sane and responsible people, who thereupon take leave of sanity and responsibility. And it occasionally happens that this underworld becomes a political power and changes the course of history.
Norm Cohn ‘Warrant for Genocide’ 1970

(As referenced by Nick Cohen).

We have a deal (or bits of a deal). Bino til Dec 2020. Then the cliff?

Still a long way to go. It sounds better than it could be. But worse than it initially seems.

Brexit (one of only several crises atm)

Either most of the Ultras haven't read / understood this draft deal,

or they think that once the UK is out of the EU, they will kick out May and then their chosen PM will just rip out the bits in the deal they don’t like,
because of course the E27 needs our trade more than we need theirs

Just had another Tory puff piece delivered. more cognitive dissonance.

Either Brexit is the most important issue des nos jours - in which case almost everything needs to reference it.

Or it's not, in which case there's no needs for all the powers the government want.

Judging by the West Midlands (tory) Mayor, and Tory council candidates, Brexit doesn't exist. No mention in 2,432 words. DW (registered blind) has to take that on trust, because as the reply I had from them admits "disabled people aren't worth bothering with".
. Hence no braille or online copies.

Your DW must feel highly valued as a Uk resident

Tusk:
"Leaders will assess in June if the Irish question has been resolved, and how to go about a common declaration on our future".

So we get to do allthis again in June
but then an even more frantic scramble to have something ready before October,
for the 38 E27 Parliaments & Regional Assemblies to approve before Brexit.

Either the Uk crashes out, or accepts exactly what the EU gives them.
Binary choice: not time for other options

I hadn't read this statement relating to this

Sam Coates Times @ samcoatestimes
Breaking: Just issued via Bindmans, an extraordinary attack on Theresa May’s political secretary Stephen Parkinson by Shahmir Sanni.

Sanni accuses Parkinson of outing him as gay in a statement released on Dominic Cummings website earlier today

Owen Jones
This statement from Corbyn on the anti-Semitic mural is a relief.

It now has to be accompanied with an all-out war - by all of us on the left - against the sickening, horrifying disease of anti-Semitism - and for us to stand in solidarity with our Jewish sisters and brothers.

David Paxton @ DavidDPaxton
Yep. Huge relief. Corbyn didn't notice the antisemitism again. It's a massive relief. For a moment I thought there might have been a problem.

Corbyn sounds just the chap to lead this all out war.

#alloutwar

Matthew Parris in the Times piling into Mogg, Johnson et al., many of whom he knew as former party colleagues and is well aware of their dark side, and their brutish use of "useful idiots".

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Compare the letter to what Corbyns statement said

This is exactly the same trick he tried to pull against women concerned about Self ID and AWS. He said on national tv he would met with them. They have been trying to, but keep getting stonewalled. Since then, Munroe Bergdorf was made a LGBT adviser (despite there already being an LGBT advisory body within Labour) although they got fired, and a doubling down on a commitment to Self ID. An NEC announcement was due March 20th but strangely got delayed until June (after the local elections).

He is so full of bullshit and a has a disregard for what the public say or even what the party membership say. Labour is a vehicle for Corbyns opinions and no debate about that.

All I wonder is who the next target for his hit list is...

Your DW must feel highly valued as a Uk resident

More than one person has assumed from the surname (which you may guess is "unusual") that she's not even British. Doesn't bother me - I grew up with it, but it's hard to describe how FUCKING ANGRY it makes me that she has to put up with it - let alone poor DS.

This is why I make no apologies for calling out Brexiteers for the cunch of bunts they are.

So I guess the why doesn't matter if it is for the greater good ?

We managed to do part of the Northern march, there was a fantastic atmosphere and the DC just loved waving their little flags. Woohoo!

MrsDG

Actually I think it right to ask about timing BUT in this case timing is irrelevant if its simply part of a pattern of behaviour.

If anything it shows a determination by parts of the Labour party to turn a blind eye when it suits, rather than have a culture which discourages anti-semitism. It just gives the opportunity for all these things to come out at once when the opposition smells the whiff of blood.

Frumpety We've given a few reasons why.
You may disagree with them, but they are reasons.

With the number of skeletons in JC's closet, any opponents are likely to bring them out at critical moments.

If they brought them all out at once, it'd be the Zombie Apocalypse

Well done, Elements and MiniElements

Big Choc thats it! We missed the genius of it all!

Who needs nukes, if you can deploy the zombies!

just back from the Leeds march - the speakers were all very positive that this isn't too late and it can be stopped, so I'm feeling positive too.

I got hassled in the train station by a leaver though. We had a vote and it's done apparently. He compared this (I think - he was pretty incoherent) to how i would vote the tories out in the next election. The fact that we have a GE every 5 years and a chance to change our minds, whereas this is a one time only deal, seemed to completely bypass him. He thought it was exactly the same. Remind me again why we're not allowed to call leavers thick?

pretzels We should have worn MN scarves and looked out for each other! (Crowd was kind of huge though!)

Congratulations to Icanreachthepretzels and elements.
Brilliant co ordinated marches in Edinburgh, Leeds, Bristol and Exeter.
And silence on BBC, Sky and ITV. Can't see anything in the papers either.
I can't remember co ordinated mass non London demonstrations on the same day before. Would normally be news.

And yet this is the first thing on the bbc news website. Marches, but not those to do with the uk

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla

Coming soon...

#BrexitWhistleblower

(Crowd was kind of huge though!)

I was impressed with the turnout! The Yorkshire Post covered it on their website which is something - according to them it was about 5K people.
I wish I had that photo of the pro Brexit march from a couple of weeks ago to post in comparison

Remind me again why we're not allowed to call leavers thick?

Because not all people who voted leave needed to ask someone to write a cross for them ... some had very good, well reasoned, valid arguments as to why the UK should leave the EU. For myself, I think "Leaver" is a fair term without opprobrium for these folk. And indeed, there have been some good discussions on these threads with the like.

Mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, pond-dwelling morons who voted "to take control back"/"bent bananas"/"send them back" are Brexiteers/Brexiters ... which is a little too-easily prepended by the word "barmy". Possibly a signal that not only is God an Englishman, but he hates Brexiteers too.

So Leavers != thick.
Brexite(e)rs = as pigshit.

Or in the Rossetti household.

Of course the painful truth for many Leavers is they're probably as happy with how things are going as Remainers.