Rumour has it, some remainers are a little glum.....

[Carolinesbeanies]

So in the spirit of sharing our deluded brexiteer cheerfulness, heres a round up of some of this weeks good news.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-5040279/UK-exports-booming-outside-Europe.html

http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/london-news/big-boost-world-bank-ranks-uk-seventh-in-its-doing-business-report/18554.article

https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/world-trade-makes-a-comeback-845798/amp

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-volkswagen/vw-explores-uk-banking-licence-ahead-of-brexit-idUKKBN1D22KR

The government have 'found' £60billion to put is a slush fund for brexit.

https://amp.ft.com/content/f3271ac7-7439-319f-ba90-9252f59aafee

And in the week that saw the interest rate rise, the Bank of England said gloomily "as migration tightens, we will see wage growth". Note the 'we will'.

Excellent. All this whilst the media obsess over impotent politicians as Britain works.

@Figmentofmyimagination

Geographic Europe maybe.

We already in the slow lane ... Slowest growing economy in the EU28.

This is very similar to the referendum campaign, where various bots with "spring" in their names got all kinds of innocent comments deleted.

And carried on posting much worse themselves...

Ah, honest and open...

@CardinalSin

Understand the consequence is a £20k fine.

The ‘russian bot’ narrative is tedious in the extreme.

Is it that much of a stretch for some people to realise that there may just be people out there who don’t agree with you?

Pathetic.

Faith, disagreement is fine, it’s the bombardment of posts with tenuous links and often irrelevant content that makes people raise eyebrows

@FaithHopeCharityDesperation

No issue debating the facts and opinions derived from facts.

Massive issue with attempts to poison discussion through the introduction of falsehoods and misinformation.

Wherefore the suspicion ... added to the odd English and spelling errors. Possibly wrong. But doesn't smell right.

Disagreement is absolutely fine, Ghost, I agree. (And we have many...!! ).

But posters continually tapping noses & banging on about russian bots is tediously unoriginal & pathetic.

In other cheery news we may have to double our £20 billion divorce settlement offer (at least) to get to trade talks.
Shitshow.

Well it was always about the money as far as the EU was concerned ssh.

That has always been obvious.

I’d be less disgruntled if they’d just come right out at the start and said “we want x amount” as that at least would have been transparent.

Instead, they’ve dicked around for months talking about ‘frameworks’ & ‘formulae’.

It’s always been about the money.

Of course when leavers were in the polling booth they’d have known an eye watering sum of money would have needed to have been paid so this is no surprise.

We were never going to be able to walk away without paying anything.

The arrogance/ naivety of anyone who thought differently is part of the problem now.

The news about the EMA and EBA plus Barniers comments on passporting are not exactly cause for celebration are they?

When are Leavers going to see that the EU are making robust plans for us leaving whilst we continue to think we can carry on as before and absolute fuck all in place for the fact that's not going to happen.

All the so called 'good news' on this thread never addresses the actual Brexit related issues does it?

If I'd voted leave I'd be annoyed at the absolute fuck up our own government is making of this.

Any anger towards the EU is just a scapegoat.

I don’t feel anger Bear.

It was apparent last year that there’d be a bill of eye-watering amounts.
I’m just as disgruntled with our lot as with their lot btw - they’ve all put politics ahead of pragmatism.

It would have saved lots of time though if the stupid politicking & dick swinging (on both sides, and also amongst the parties in UK) if the EU had just said ‘we’re going to miss your money, this is what we want as a divorce bill’.

I missed part of a sentence it should have said:

It would have saved lots of time though if there hadn’t been stupid politicking & dick swinging (on both sides, and also amongst the parties in UK), and if the EU had just said ‘we’re going to miss your money, this is what we want as a divorce bill’.

But the EU have said exactly that; talks won't move on to trade until we settle our divorce bill.

The dick swinging has been on our side because we think we're going to be missed so much by the EU that they'll drop the subject if we push them.

Not exactly working well as a negotiating strategy is it?

I think the EU did say it from the get go. We tried to wriggle out if it and dicked about until the UK electorate realised they had to agree to it to move forward.
I know we Remainers kept saying it before the vote but the only figure that Leavers were interested in was the lying bollocks on that bus.

When are Leavers going to see that the EU are making robust plans for us leaving whilst we continue to think we can carry on as before and absolute fuck all in place

This. This is the worst thing.

Feeling the need to share a counter narrative.

So the original £20 bn (I think) is the media's interpretation of 2 years net contributions during the transition. Don't see how anyone would argue we shouldn't pay this since it allows for the run off of existing commitments. Still leaves us £16 bn in pocket from the £350m on the bus during that 2 years.

On further commitments, no idea where the ("further £20 bn) guesstimates are coming from but it would be naive in the extreme to assume there were no further liabilities (will also be offsetting assets). Imo this is all about the politics of "winning".

On EMA / EBA it seems unfortunate that both have gone to EU6 countries. Gives the impression of siege mentality rather than looking outwards and embracing the full EU27.

Dublin had a good case for both and would have kept Anglophile / Transatlantic platform. Former Eastern block countries have strong expertise in medicine / healthcare which could have been harnessed. Paris will doubtless provide some sort of counterweight to German banking dominance but the risk is they all disappear down the same internal rabbit hole.

Looking forward to having NICE etc and BoE etc back properly in charge of their respective areas in the UK without the veneer of "oversight and co-operation" from the EU.

No idea what time it is in Moscow but just approaching 10 in dreich old Scotland.

Well done Richard Leonard for sticking to his football allegiances. You can be as "civically National" as you like but no-one trusts someone who doesn't know which team they're on - ask DC.

"Just imagine if the PM had not managed to get the cabinet onside".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42061020

My thought on this? Just imagine if the Brexiters weren't digging their heels in. UK would probably already have lost the Rebate, EMA / EBA etc etc and would be rejoining with Euro and Schengen. The status quo ship has already sailed.

Logic fail above

Good article finally acknowledging the source of UK productivity puzzle and under investment.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42012388

And on the cheery news front.

Scotland leading the World in MRI technology.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-42054305

howabout that link is the perfect example of my point about the ‘happy news’ on here having nothing to do with Brexit

All that kind of story does is prove there are no upsides to Brexit so you’re reverting to the ‘look, squirrel’ tactic.