Rumour has it, some remainers are a little glum.....

[Carolinesbeanies]

So in the spirit of sharing our deluded brexiteer cheerfulness, heres a round up of some of this weeks good news.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-5040279/UK-exports-booming-outside-Europe.html

http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/london-news/big-boost-world-bank-ranks-uk-seventh-in-its-doing-business-report/18554.article

https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/world-trade-makes-a-comeback-845798/amp

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-volkswagen/vw-explores-uk-banking-licence-ahead-of-brexit-idUKKBN1D22KR

The government have 'found' £60billion to put is a slush fund for brexit.

https://amp.ft.com/content/f3271ac7-7439-319f-ba90-9252f59aafee

And in the week that saw the interest rate rise, the Bank of England said gloomily "as migration tightens, we will see wage growth". Note the 'we will'.

Excellent. All this whilst the media obsess over impotent politicians as Britain works.

I’m intrigued as to how the Dothraki hordes will carry out these myriad sea crossings tbh.

Are they doing it at the moment?
I haven’t seen it being reported anywhere.

How did you manage to avoid tabloid reporting all these years?

£30 . Calais to Dover. Though Ireland is a lovely country to visit. Wouldnt want to dent their tourist industry by being negative..

Ghost, eu citizens can just walk in, and will be able to just walk in post brexit. They potentially lose the right to claim residence, work etc etc etc. due to brexit but youre utterly confused.

Illegal migration (non-eu, migrant crisis etc) is a completely different issue. I gather Ireland missed 400 last year that randomly snuck in, but they were picked up further up country. Strangely, dinghies arent heading there either.

Why on earth would traffickers use Ireland as an illegal entry point, when they may as well use Dover as an illegal entry point? Youre not now suggesting Irish border staff are shoddy are you?

Just suggesting they need a hard border at ROI/NI.
But I’m being paranoid. Just remind me about Turkey again ....

Because the leavers talked endlessly about controlling borders also concerns about Eastern Europeans working in the black market. Is this ok for NI but not uk?

Uk is leaving sm/cu this means border control as much as you’d like to ignore this inconvenience

New book, 'Goodbye Europe' has gone on sale today

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Goodbye-Europe-Writers-Artists-Farewell/dp/1409177548

It's alright though, "access" to each others' markets will make all the problems go away. Apparently...

How did you manage to avoid tabloid reporting all these years?

I’ve searched the darkest recesses of my memory.
I’ve googled.

I cannot find anything about thousands of illegal immigrants making covert sea crossings to Ireland.

Ghost suggest googling why Ireland like the UK is not in Schengen.

Watching hugely enjoyable BBC4 series on the classical poets. A wee bit Ovid sure puts into perspective the minor adjustment of leaving the EU.

What's the betting that if we end up with a hard border, Ireland decides it's time to join Schengen...

If there is a soft border then obviously it will be seen as a weak spot. But I suspect you know that having had your tech border dismissed and completly ignoring of cu/sm issue.

Tech border dismissed?!?

Next MP I see I’ll be sure to tell them you’ve dismissed idea of a tech border Ghost, sure that will stop them pursuing things further.

I do suspect though that may want a second opinion 🤔

Anything that helps them stutter along as they have been doing muesli. Please take a look at the Irish times article I linked.

Shame this thread gone the way of all EU threads but I have one more idea:: Brexodus The Movie it'll be a bit short mind you if they stick to the facts.

Sorry for my part in the derailment btw.

I await more cheery news from Caroline today 😊

Some people just lack the ability to acknowledge the positive and prefer to focus on the negative - ‘glass half empty’ types.

I am sure Caroline will be along with some more of her positive news later 😊.

Some people lack the ability to analyse "news" and prefer fluffy headlines...

Absolutely cardinal.

Some people lack the ability to analyse "news" and prefer fluffy headlines..

As opposed to people who want to spend their time analysing headlines on things that may not even happen. That is not the nature of this particular thread you can find plenty of that on the Westministenders thread if that’s your thing

Just a short cheery start to Friday, before I dash out

I dont put much store in polls, but we had by-elections yesterday and it does indeed appear UK opinion is pretty much where it was 12 months ago. No changes so far, all seats held. Despite the constant bombardment of accusations of fascism, racism, sexual assaults in parliament, Russian interferance, and still the polls and electorate hold steady.

Cheery news indeed. The MSM onslaught is not winning, and the sensible silent majority are ploughing on. (Double whammy on the cheery chart, that its utterly pissing off Blair! How can this be!

I cant ignore this snippet that popped across yesterday. The European Commission launched a promo for its new youth solidarity programme. Its raising eyebrows, as well as its obvious comparisons.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/931061782298238976

The EU are waking up to the reality of revenue post brexit, which is cheery news. The head in the sand, we're not listening, was taking them no where. Cuts need to be made ...or they could just carry on with the QE programme. 60billion a month (thats a proposed UK 'divorce payment' every month, printed and spent buying EU government bonds) is hardly insignificant. But its been going on for years now, quite successfully too. The issue is, theyre running out of bonds to buy. The ECB gravy train cant continue, nor should it, as where the BoE has a mandate, the ECB doesnt.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/11/16/eu-budget-wars-heat-brexit-reality-starts-hit-home/

Merkel is locked in a back office today, desperately trying to form a government. Im sure she will succeed but her wings are being dramatically clipped. Thats certainly no bad thing. (Im still super cheery over Schauble going )

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-17/merkel-leaves-europe-to-its-own-devices-as-the-show-must-go-on

And this made me smile this morning from Aviva. New Investment ad.

"The MSM onslaught is not winning"

This is quite a bizarre assertion considering the majority of the MSM is pro-Brexit (or rather pro-tax avoidance which is why they want Brexit).

The MSM onslaught is not winning

Depends what you see as MSM. If you mean newspapers, I think the Mail, Telegraph and Murdoch titles are all feeling pretty satisfied with their propaganda, as there doesn't seem to be any divergence from the line they've been espousing all along.

Not a single black or Asian face in that propaganda piece Caroline.

Either the EU machine don’t invite citizens of colour to comment, or they did, but their comments weren’t deemed to be of any value.

I wonder which it is?

Infinite going to leave Brexodus the Movie to the Whizzy creative types in charge of the Aviva ad campaign.

Did spend a wee while leafing through the Goodbye Europe book yesterday and looking up Metamorphosis atm. So Brexit in epic poetry could yet emerge.

Faith just watched the EU piece. It is strikingly shocking in its lack of diversity - to the extent that I cannot imagine it being produced for a UK audience by a UK government / public sector agency.