Where have all the Brexiters gone?

[MsHooliesCardigan]

Just that really. 52% voted to leave. I know Mumsnet isn't completely representative of the electorate but you would expect at least a few people to be banging the Brexit drum. The ones that were quite vocal seem to have lost their voice. Perhaps they're just bored with the whole thing but their silence really is deafening.

Yeah, they can barely afford their weekly shop now

Some people may buy into your hystericalness. I certainly don't.

I'm just curious in where you are coming from with your farage, banks, Johnson, Rees mogg aren't at all the elite but three Jewish names are

I've reported that.

Who to? Illuminati anonymous?

Why don't you just tell us how Kissinger is suffering from brexit?

I read the Brexit threads after getting home last night, it's interesting to see how the remainers are so fond of playing the wo/man and not the ball.

Then play the ball m4dad, its not difficult.

M4dad

Don’t respond to the goaders, no reasoning with them, I have reported also.

It was also funny to note how many Remainers ran off when certain Leavers turned up and joined the fray.

It certainly made me smile.

themueslicamel

Will do, thanks.

Because it's hard work talking to when you regurgitate the same brainwashing. It's quite simple.

The problem with a statement such as

Brexit was a blow against the Globalists where people put ideals first and money second.

is that surely the Globalists ought to have suffered something , anything as a result ? All I was asking is what ? And I am asking that as someone who doesn't have any money . I have a strong suspicion that they actually couldn't give a gnats chuff and as has been said will probably benefit financially from the fall-out .
I voted remain because I didn't want people with not a lot , to end up with even less and people with lot's to end up with even more , evil remoaner that I am

And ideologues are dangerous.

jackscohen.wordpress.com/2017/02/28/beware-ideologues/

Could someone please answer my questions 50 odd messages ago?

The house analogy is inappropriate as I recognised but could someone please discuss
(1) the benefits from being an EU member - and properly thought not just some regurgitated numbers that x million jobs depend on the EU. Think how the economy works and where demand is being driven and satisfied. You may include economies of scale from EU agencies that have local effect (not the EBA, EIOPA etc). You may include trade deals l, but see below.
(2) the costs of membership - think not just the money paid in but the ongoing costs of compliance, the costs of regulation that isn't fit for Uk, the lack of flexibility in trade deals that are not customised. Oh and include opportunity costs from getting freer trade with the larger world economies. (And don't be stupid and say size is everything / Ricardo might be good basic reading here)
(3) the benefits of leaving - not the inverse of the costs fully here as they also include certain political advantages etc
(4) the costs of leaving.

Now it appears that many people are focusing on (4) whereas others, the Leave supporters usually, are talking about (1),(2) and (3) but usually (2) and (3).

I find this interesting. Why is no-one standing up and saying staying in is a good thing in and of itself?

@frumpty

I voted remain because I didn't want people with not a lot , to end up with even less and people with lot's to end up with even more

How is this even relevant? You want supranational oversight of the Uk as the Labour Party can't win an election on a socialist manifesto? (Might soon though!)

Bizarre reasoning in my view.

The ones that were quite vocal seem to have lost their voice.

Not in the least, I just don't see the point in continuing to argue for Brexit against Remoaners who cannot accept a majority decision. If you didn't list before the vote, you didn't listen for six months after the vote, you're not going to listen now.

Wisedad wrt point 2)

BBC Business news
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41581705

It starts:
"The UK and EU have formally set out plans for World Trade Organization commitments post-Brexit, but they have already been opposed by some countries.
The issue is about how much of certain goods can be imported at reduced tariffs after Brexit.
These quotas currently apply to imports anywhere in the EU.
But seven nations, including the US and Canada, have already made it clear that they think plans to divide existing quotas will put them at a disadvantage."

Then there's a clear explanation of the situation, then:

"It's also interesting to note which countries have raised the objection in the WTO. They include three that have been identified as leading candidates for free-trade deals with the UK post-Brexit: the US, Canada and New Zealand.
Their objections to the specific proposals on tariff rate quotas certainly don't mean they will be unwilling to do deals. But it is a reminder that they can be expected to negotiate vigorously to promote their own national interests."

Sorry I know it isn't a direct answer to your question , I just thought it was pertinent to the general theme of your questions

Wise to be fair we were discussing ideologies , M4 was stating that the vote gave the Globalists a bloody nose as the people voted for ideals as opposed to material wealth . I was simply stating my ideal from a non Labour voting ( sorry Jeremy ) stance and one of the reasons I voted remain . I am a flibbertigibbet voter , I vote for who I think is best suited to the job , so clearly I didn't vote for the current incompetents .

It was also funny to note how many Remainers ran off when certain Leavers turned up and joined the fray.

I'm assuming you mean me but I didn't 'run off' anywhere.

carolines post bore me to tears. It's all well and good listing everything the nasty EU do but it does nothing to resolve the problem of how we actually Brexit and how we deal with the consequences.

wisedad declared himself the leader of all Leavers on this thread when he waded in but he made such an almighty mistake with his reference to tampon tax that I saw now point in pursuing that conversation either.

In addition, yesterday I made comments about every single line of one of your posts m4 and you didn't bother replying to those either.

It reinforces my point about the problem here being that Leavers are refusing to engage in conversation nstructive conversation about how things are actually going to work out.

We're well beyond the whys and wherefore of the actual vote- now answers are needed.

wisedad I've been asking for an answer to (3) for 18 months

Why on earth do you think Remainers can answer that when Leavers don't have a clue?

glad to see you dropped the reference to tampon tax

The more I think of it, the more M4s "bloody nose" sounds like flicking a v-sign behind the bully's back when he's nicked M4s dinner money.

He must be so proud.

Not sure about having a like button but I give this one 💩 to histinyhands . You know full well that wasn’t what m4dad was saying in relation to notdavidtennant’’s post of yesterday, a massive assumption was made to fit a remain narrative (yawn). You had posts deleted yesterday about this and yet you bring it up again.

What I find most alarming about yesterday’s post was the number of remainers that just turned a blind eye to it.

It was offensive and not one remainer pulled the poster up on it - spineless.

I’m off now for a cuppa and a garibaldi.

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Like.

So Brexit has been a punch in the face for kissinger, soros and the Rothschilds - is this a widespread Brexiteer view then?

Well, I tried to look this up but google took me to some very murky/nasty sites indeed.

If M4Dad would clarify how - his chosen three elites - and not the other elites of course - are suffering then perhaps that would help.