Where have all the Brexiters gone?

[MsHooliesCardigan]

Just that really. 52% voted to leave. I know Mumsnet isn't completely representative of the electorate but you would expect at least a few people to be banging the Brexit drum. The ones that were quite vocal seem to have lost their voice. Perhaps they're just bored with the whole thing but their silence really is deafening.

Trying to converse as a leaver on these boards has just become so repetitive. I really struggle to be bothered to read the posts in the last wee while. It's just the same old same old. The discussions just seem to go round and round in cycles with comments from some irrelevant blog or other. I agree with the comments made by the other leavers on this thread. And no, I am not beginning to think it was a bad idea and I have not changed my mind.

Well well Titania there we go, suggesting that leavers lack intelligence, ha ha ha you are just so witty - not!

Says the poster who can’t get my name right.

As a central backroom Leave campaigner put it:

“Our people are the old, the badly educated and the poor”.

Ahh, it’s nice to be missed. 😀
But we haven’t gone anywhere - we just don’t bother posting on here anymore.
Nothing to say that hasn’t been said a million times before. ( it was getting really really borIng in the end tbh )
Brexit is happening & that’s it really.
Why don’t you read Nick Clegg’s fantasy novel if you’re bored? the poor man must be desperate for attention ( and money )

Tatiana

Who said that, when, in what context?

Please provide link to substantiate your comment.

I don't know anyone who voted leave who would vote differently now if that helps.

There's no point in stating a pro leave stance on here as has already been demonstrated the horrible lefties will assume you have low intelligence or are racist etc.

The educated leavers aren't happy with how it's going and now hope to get out on 'No deal' rather than caving into some half Brexit.

Just get it done!

Who said that, when, in what context?

I've done a quick google. It appears to have come from a journo with a book to sell. He was quoting 'a source'. Besides, the last I heard the old, the badly educated and the poor still have a vote. Do you want to disenfranchise them, tell them their worries don't matter and they should keep quiet whilst the elite get on with running the world?

If Remainers are so intelligent, how come they didn't persuade the electorate to vote their way on June 23rd? As I recall it, they were remarkably short on detail and data. They relied instead on the fear factor, telling us that the sky would fall in if we left. It hasn't.

maybe talk about something useful, like the best way to make brexit work and brexit priorities

That comment is actually hysterical.

Remainers round here have being trying to talk about how it will work and what the priorities are since the vote however it's seems these details are merely trivia to Leavers who simply repeat the mantra 'we're leaving, get over it'

Bearbehind just beat me to it.

Apparently it's up to the Remainers to see what the benefits are, even though there aren't any and the Leavers can't tell us of any - at least not of any that stand up to a moment's scrutiny.

Concerning (although not exactly surprising) that not even the prime minister seems to think it is a good idea to leave the EU.

"Ahh, it’s nice to be missed. 😀"



Gosh isnt the MN remainers frustration on here palpable though.

Its actually very easy to not engage on here, when Merkel agrees to an immigration cap this week, the EU force Greece to accept the return of refugees, Macron stands alone on his EU reform platform, Spain send in the facists to batter Catelonian women and pensioners, Ireland and Luxembourg have their tech industries crippled by the overstepping EU tax police, Uber have finally been challenged as the EU exploiting no protections business model they are, the ECB plough on with their cash machine QE swamping the continent with euros to prop up re-leveraging, and all that in the last fortnight.

What do you want us to say? Told you so?

But hey, we want to call you nazi racists so bollocks to all that. Back to my tea and toast and watching the whole EU mess implode.

Caroline, I don’t see the eu imploding but I see the British economy tanking. Let’s see the governments impact assessment on brexit.

Gosh isnt the MN remainers frustration on here palpable though.

Funny that

What surferjet said. What's the point of going over the same stuff time and again with remainers who still don't have an answer to the question 'why do you want the UK to be ruled from Brussels by unelected foreigners?' (the Commission, obviously. The EU 'Parliament' is just a talking shop and MEPs have no power).

The economy wil be fine after we leave, stop fretting. Though I wouldn't trust the government's impact assessment, drawn up by the notoriously anti-Brexit Treasury, as the fictitious rubbish they published as part of Project Fear showed,

the economy wil be fine after we leave, stop fretting

Is that comment based on anything other than wishful thinking?

None of WollyFather's comments are based on anything resembling facts...

@ wholly father

I usually resist the temptation to describe Brexiteers as ill informed.

But comments stating that the UK is ruled from Brussels by unelected foreignors show such a lack of understanding of the process that it is rather hard.

I wouldn't bother. WF typically swoops in, mansplains some kind of utter falsehood, then disappears again, secure in the knowledge that he has shown some uppity females how superior his manbrain is.

A few facts for remainers.

1. Night follows day.
2. The Earth is round.
3. In a democracy, the old, uneducated, & poor are still allowed to vote. ( gawd bless ya me ol’ muckers )
4. 52% is bigger than 48%
5. The leave vote won. A50 has been triggered and we are leaving the EU

These are facts.

Anything else is up for endless discussion which not many people have the time for.

I'm a Brexiteer. What of it?

It's pretty pathetic that your argument hasn't moved on from the above surfer

You really don't give a toss what happens do you?

Bear, it’s the cult again. The religion, the dogma. God is great, brexit means Brexit. These are also facts.

I'm a Brexiteer.
I've never thought that the UK and the EU were a good fit.
I hope and expect that the UK and the EU will both thrive after Brexit.
Change and reform is usually a good thing. I don't understand all the fear and doom mongering.

At some point we're all going to have to drop this remainer vs leaver positioning. Not to get too tinfoil hat about it all, but divisions like that play right into the hands of those for whom a deeply divided populace is an ideal situation.

Personally, I wonder if Brexit will force the conversation around automation, which is actually the far bigger issue that no one is talking about. For example, if farms can't get the labour to pick fruit they either automate or fold, because no one is going to pay £12 for 500g of strawberries. I also wonder if the UK manufacturing industry will shrink too, as it'll just be cheaper to buy everything in from China. Actually, outside creativity, care and instructional professions (teaching, tutors, trainers) there aren't many industries that are likely to be unaffected by automation. We - and our education system - need to be preparing for this.

Oh and as for immigration, that's the biggest red herring of the lot. Immigration is economically vital to pay people's pensions and healthcare, especially at the moment as the baby boomer generation is so large. We will simply source people from elsewhere. If I was a nurse, care worker or doctor from Nigeria, India, Australia, Brazil, Russia, the Philippines, Turkey etc etc I'd be feeling cautiously optimistic about UK job opportunities over the next few years.

The tedious nature of debate with remain supporters stopped me bothering.

This is why I stopped bothering to engage.

Still here, still a Brexiter, still not a shill.