Westministers: May Shares the Cake

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May's Speech Abbreviated:

We still have nfi how we are going to do this. EU this is your fault. You sort it out. We are too lazy, workshy and fighting like high school children to work it out ourselves. Be our whipping boy.

I support democracy as long as I get to do whatever I like
I support human rights as long as I can ignore them when I like.
I support the rule of law except when it doesn't suit my agenda.

Waffle waffle.

"Creative", "Dynamic" PR for my Premiership.

Waffle waffle

We really need policing cooperation, PLEASE keep it with us. I know I threatened to withdraw this, but I'm sorry, I was wrong and a bit of a dick about this.

Gets to the point FINALLY.

"2 year transition period"

(With another time bomb lock which is still too short for IT departments. Nothing to do with the next general election, honest).

RULE BRITANNIA!

Polite Applause.

I posted a while back that the senior civil servant JDD on R North's thread reported how civil servants were trying to cover their backs in case of a Chilcott-style enquiry into Brexit failures.

These additional sources indicate JDD's leak then was correct
He's more accurate at reporting what is actually happening, rather than predicting,
because DD & co keep flailing around in ignorance and it is more difficult to predict people who don't behave sensibly, or who keep U-turning.

BigChoc we have pretty much written off the rest of the year for dh to recover. We are still waiting to see if surgery will be needed, at the moment I suspect it will be. That will mean another week at least in hospital. This is a healthy living 45yr old (no smoking or drinking alcohol, regular exercise). It's crazy and makes you realise how easy it is for someone to suddenly get very seriously ill very quickly. Taking any protection offered is definitely worth doing no matter how unlikely it may seem you will need it.

Got my jab booked next week
Dh has had his (asthmatic)
Ds2 gets his at school
Ds1 gets his when they open the childrens clinics (asthmatic)

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-migration-target-absurd-arbitrary-vince-cable-tens-of-thousands-immigration-figures-a7863691.html#commentsDiv
Cable has written a number of articles where he has been very scathing about TM's approach to immigration when he was in coalition with her.
I can't find the link but he recounted a conversation he had with her about overseas students, particularly EU ones (she sent 48,000 students home before they had completed their courses) and pointed out to her that universities are one of our greatest assets and attract high quality EU students who pay substantial fees which obviously benefits the university in terms of research etc and that a significant number end up staying here, setting up businesses and employing staff.
She didn't refute anything he'd said but her answer was basically 'so what?'
It was full Maybot 'Must reduce immigration. Must reduce immigration. This information does not compute'.

Its seems really quiet on here jn regards to Mays speech

I honestly thought there would be another thread or two

A major reason why other - sensible - countries are so welcome to foreign students
is that it gives a brilliant opportunity for a country to make friends among the most educated young people from different lands,

some of whom will later become very influential in their home countries, in politics, business, science, law etc

even having friends at the level of chiming in their opinion on contracts or work with UK firms is a great, but intangible benefit.

Of course, refusing foreign students permission to study - or even worse sending home law-abiding students for no reason other than placating the xenophobes - creates a more hostile environment in the future.

At times like now, the UK needs more friends, not enemies

Its seems really quiet on here in regards to Mays speech

It was light on substance, and we are discussing what little there was to discuss here. I do wonder if the hard right will attempt to knife her in the back in the next few days. She's let them down with her speech.

Bigly last time I had flu I ended up with viral bronchitis as a complication. I was 34 at the time, non-smoker and very fit and healthy. It was 3 months before I was myself again. You can't underestimate the harm real flu can do.

peragrina

I meant on mumsnet, thats why i was referring to threads

I accept that i fucked up my post

Rufus, I knew you were referring to MN threads rather than just here, but really, what has she said?

My mother used to get very debilitating bronchitis every winter. The winter she had a flu jab the bronchitis stopped, and she never got it again.

Listening to the repeat of Any Questions just now. Audience at Lancing College audibly booing and jeering Leaver arguments.

Loud cheers when Jonathan Dimbleby mentions poll showing that Remain appears to have overtaken Leave .

May has decided on a transition period

• which may in practice drag on much longer than 2 years -

which will be 2nd-class EU membership:

"We will no longer sit at the European Council table or in the Council of Ministers,
and we will no longer have Members of the European Parliament."

...it really does beg the question whats the fucking point...

Anyway...its ds2s b day weekend and I am off to make a Pokemon b day cake...

Happy birthday little badders
It's dc2s birthday tomorrow so I'm baking too. Cars 3 theme though. With very exact requirements that mean I can't buy one from the shop.

Happy birthday minihashi 🎁🎂

"We will no longer sit at the European Council table or in the Council of Ministers, and we will no longer have Members of the European Parliament."

So effectively an EEA style arrangement but not called that?

R4 made an interesting point that there are a few - influential - people for whom Brexit is effectively a lifes work, and that they have moved towards a softer Brexit as they have realised that the risks of a hard Brexit are no Brexit at all which for some would be the past 30 years wasted.

Not sure if there is any historical parallel (and thus a playbook to follow).

Returning to the "Brexit as religion" theme, maybe sometime during the reformation, when the hard line protestants were forced to keep some of the Catholic trappings or risk a complete backlash against project CofE ?

Maybe it's not such a bad parallel, actually. To hear some Brexitloons speak, you'd think there was a Spanish Armada parked off Dover.

Birthday wishes to the kids bladders and hashi. Pictures of cakes please!

Bladders!? Sorry, blooming autocorrect just can't deal with your name badders

Happy birthday to MiniBadders and MiniHashi

Happy birthday to all the mini Westminstenders!

And Bigly you win Type of the Thread. As the winner on the previous thread, I now hand my crown to you.