Westministers: May Shares the Cake

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May's Speech Abbreviated:

We still have nfi how we are going to do this. EU this is your fault. You sort it out. We are too lazy, workshy and fighting like high school children to work it out ourselves. Be our whipping boy.

I support democracy as long as I get to do whatever I like
I support human rights as long as I can ignore them when I like.
I support the rule of law except when it doesn't suit my agenda.

Waffle waffle.

"Creative", "Dynamic" PR for my Premiership.

Waffle waffle

We really need policing cooperation, PLEASE keep it with us. I know I threatened to withdraw this, but I'm sorry, I was wrong and a bit of a dick about this.

Gets to the point FINALLY.

"2 year transition period"

(With another time bomb lock which is still too short for IT departments. Nothing to do with the next general election, honest).

RULE BRITANNIA!

Polite Applause.

Thank you for the new thread Red

@davidallengreen
Law and policy Retweeted Guy Verhofstadt
Significant, as (a) European Parliament has right of veto on exit deal and (b) this is the Parliament's coordinator on Brexit. Must read.

@GuyVerhofstadt
My reaction to PM May's #florencespeech here

bit.ly/2hoIFzs

He emphasises citizens' rights and North of Ireland.

I suspect there are many EU MEPs who, having witnessed the behaviour of the british governments over the last 7 years will have a much less collaborative and pacific approach to the may administration.

The fact that she had to give that speech in a room devoid of any EU representatives, but in an EU city spoke volumes.

That Moody's report, is so clear.

And yes, BCF it's what I suspect that there will be some bargain basement prices for those vultures who are biding their time for the britain to tank. Conflict of interest legal cases will stand no chance if May and Tory current record on illegal behaviour is allowed to stand unchallenged.

Even under Thatch, cases like the Matrix Churchill case ensured the gov was held to account.

Downing Street are claiming that Moody's are working with out of date information. I don't see anything within that speech that would change their view, except the date of exit. There's nothing to suggest a deal is reachable by the government, possibly not at all if she continues to talk to the eu in the manner of a headmistress admonishing a naughty child.

It makes me wonder though, is the reason for that particular speech and the feeling that it wasn't the one she was initially going to deliver down to someone realising this downgrade was incoming?

I have already had the flu this year, or a very close facsimile.
I might still get a shot though. I don't want another episode.

Wishing 'A gut gebentsht yohr' on this Rosh Hashanah.

Thanks for the new thread, Red.

Interesting times.

Does she know that there is this thing called 'the news' and that people all over the world can see it and hear it? Has she heard of 'the internet'?

We've already established May's position on this.

I doubt May has ever used any kind of social media.

Think I'm with Marina Hyde in thinking this is the best article of the week:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/21/civil-servants-highlighting-brexit-concerns-official-emails/
Civil servants 'highlighting Brexit concerns in official emails to guard against Chilcot-style inquiry'

Just noticing (another) anti-vaxxer thread elsewhere, it occurred to me that for a lot of people, Brexit is the political equivalent of anti-vaxxing.

All "feeling" in total contradiction of any facts.

I admit there may be many good reasons for not believing in vaccines ... but none that are used as "evidence" - cf arguments for Leave.

Sorry if that's snippy. I accidentally caught thus numpty tory Bernard Jenkin on R4 ...

Well, MMR vaccine did have an immediate, hospital stay inducing and deleterious effect on my lovely DS, but that's for another thread, LH But in order to prevent any other little kids getting measles (from which I almost died as a kiddy) I have chosen to have my kids inoculated.

For vaccines to work en masse, however, need collective action, a bit like EU.

Greater good and all that.

May has heard of the internet. That's why she wants to ban it.

I echo what someone said upthread about how we've heard a lot about what "we" don't want - but where's the vision for what we do want?

BCF I get a free flu jab too, courtesy of working in the NHS. Where i work, we get frail elderly people coming in to take part in research so it is really a no brainer - I could not live with myself if I caught it and passed it on.

Having had real flu three times in my life, I don't want it again. It's a sledgehammer of an illness. People tend to have really nasty colds and think that's flu - it's really not.

So we pay into the EU for two years, accept FoM, and the jurisdiction of the ECJ, both the Brexiteers red lines, but we have no MEPs, and presumably no other representation at the EU? Yes, May, you did well there. P*d off the Brexiters, and made the Remainers scratch their heads, why not just cancel the whole thing and stick with what we already have? The only good thing of course, is that we get rid of Farage as an MEP.

Or, it is a set up to crash out, Peregrina.

North seems to be having a little episode on twitter along those lines.

A Chilcot-style enquiry into Brexit.

Civil Servants already foreseeing this.

They're foreseeing damage on a scale unprecedented in peace-time.

We're so fucked.

Drs think dh's pneumonia probably started with flu. He has now been in hospital over 2 weeks. In future we will all be vaccinated.

....and we The 52%/the UK Government brought this clusterfuck onto our own country willingly.

At least the Iraq War was "somewhere else" even if it was based on lies (I can be proud that I went on the "Stop the War" march in Glasgow )

No wonder the civil servants are covering their backsides.

Anyone deemed “at risk” of complications from flu gets a free flu jab - i.e. everyone over 65, pregnant women and others as listed here - www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/who-should-have-flu-vaccine.aspx
Where I live we get a letter giving us an appointment.

I went to pick up my prescription and was violently assualted given a flu jab by the pharmacist. A sore arm for a few days is far better than flu.

I used to work for a large company where staff were more or less forced to have the flu jab annually - not, I suspect, because the notorious owner was concerned about our health but because he didn't want us taking time off due to illness.

Mr and Mrs BiglyBadgers, hoping he is fit and well soon. Best wishes to you.

^There’ll be no Brexit, just a parliamentary stalemate – Lord Ashdown
Lord Ashdown’s views echoed those of an ex-aide to David Davis^.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/therell-be-no-brexit-just-a-parliamentary-stalemate-lord-ashdown-36145834.html

Democracy abhors a vacuum.

Would be nice if they were focussing on: housing, health and education and trying to mitigate economic damage, but there we are.

pointy I never had a flu jab, didn't think it worth it .... until about 15 years ago when I caught genuine flu, not a bad cold.
2 weeks of it left me very weak ... and I caught it again a few days later and was ill another 2 weeks. That totally hammered me.
My GP kept checking I didn't get pneumonia or bronchitis

• poorly MrBigly indicates how serious that can be I do hope he is fit enough to return home v soon.

Then he may need several months to rebuild his strength to what it was. Took me 4 months to regain my previous gym standard, just with the 2 flu bouts.

Just talking to ds1 about maybots speech yesterday...
Ds: sigh. So what did she say?
Me: um.......

A little bit of nice for everyone

A Record Number Of Brits Are Opening Their Homes To Refugees
www.buzzfeed.com/emilydugan/a-record-number-of-brits-are-opening-their-home-to-refugees?utm_term=.oi9JmgwP#.dewV9LYe

Missed your post bigly
Hope dh is better soon

bigly good news.