Westministers: May Shares the Cake

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May's Speech Abbreviated:

We still have nfi how we are going to do this. EU this is your fault. You sort it out. We are too lazy, workshy and fighting like high school children to work it out ourselves. Be our whipping boy.

I support democracy as long as I get to do whatever I like
I support human rights as long as I can ignore them when I like.
I support the rule of law except when it doesn't suit my agenda.

Waffle waffle.

"Creative", "Dynamic" PR for my Premiership.

Waffle waffle

We really need policing cooperation, PLEASE keep it with us. I know I threatened to withdraw this, but I'm sorry, I was wrong and a bit of a dick about this.

Gets to the point FINALLY.

"2 year transition period"

(With another time bomb lock which is still too short for IT departments. Nothing to do with the next general election, honest).

RULE BRITANNIA!

Polite Applause.

Yay you might think.

Except:

The Canary‏ @TheCanarySays
We need to talk about Laura Kuenssberg. She’s listed as a speaker at the Tory Party conference

Jim Waterson‏*@jimwaterson*
It took me two mins to call the event organiser and find out this is bollocks. She's not speaking at Tory conference. Already going viral regardless.

Lets replace one load of hateful bollocks with another load of hateful bollocks.

Oh, I would love for power to have shifted to the extent that Dacre can fuck off.

With all the talk on this thread, I may have to keep my cats inside. I remember reading that there were very few cats left on the streets of Naples during WWII.

Has Michael Howard come out yet and advocated sending the Navy across the Atlantic? They could look sinister from all the British offshore tax havens and shelters in the Caribbean. What will he do if the US put up more barriers if at the same time Spain wants EU tariffs (and non tariff barriers) on Gibraltar? Oh, and Ireland exercises it's right to block an EU deal if Westminster continue to not give a fig about the next Irish problem it is creating.

It is only hilarious in an ouch way. How on earth are these people ruining running the country?

Guinea Pigs > Rabbits > Cats

Just saying.

We don't have any off-grid source of heating or power in this house, so we'll probably freeze to death in the dark, whilst clutching desperately to our tins of chickpeas.

I remember reading that there were very few cats left on the streets of Naples during WWII.

Did you see the Alexander Armstrong/Michael Scott programme about hidden Italy earlier this year ?

There's a network of caverns and tunnels under Naples, where there are still reminders of WW2 ....

You can cook tins on an open fire.

Why is the Labour party being associated with a smear campaign against Kuenssberg? Or being associated with anti-Semitism? You would think it should be the last party to be down and dirty like this.

I am not an admirer of Kuenssberg, but the way the Daily Politics is loaded would put you off loaded perspective, in any event. Different from smearing someone, though. And what about a bodyguard? Something is very wrong.

Guinea Pigs > Rabbits > Cats > Dogs

Urban wildlife - Pigeons > Rats (+ around here, Seagulls)

And, as in the case of Paris during the 1870 siege, zoo animals.

One thing which has bugged me since the election ... maybe someone here can help ?

I am sure I saw a report shortly after the election which broke down voters by newspapers and came up with the rather suppressible conclusion that for all the BLUSTER and the SHOCK and the OUTRAGE and the SHEER VOLUME of Sun/Express/Mail headlines, it emerged that not many of their readers actually voted.

The fact I can't seem to find it anywhere since, suggests that either I dreamt it, or Google has finally passed the cat-video horizon, or it's being hidden ????

Does anyone else here remember something similar ?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41415328?ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=twitter
Woman, 65, held over alleged official secrets breach

BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford said the fact the woman is being held under Section 1 of the Official Secrets Act 1911 means she is suspected of spying.

Intriguing...

Perhaps she leaked the Whitehall biccie budget ?

Just watched JCs speech
Generally I'm impressed

Guinea Pigs breed quick and less likely to carry disease compared to rats / pigeons. They are easy to keep. Which is why they are better to rabbits.

Yes, more Sun readers failed to vote than voted, if I remember correctly Lurking.

Not true for other newspapers though.

Oh ffs
I draw the line at peeling a pigeon 😣🤢😡

Are you thinking it's PN's source? Quite a heavy-handed response if so.

MiL taught me how to catch a pigeon a while back.

Charles Grant‏****@CER_Grant
Forget the emotive word 'dictation' - this important piece by @pmdfoster shows May is serious about a deal:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/26/theresa-may-took-dictation-brussels-keynote-eu-speech-agreed/

Peter Foster‏**@pmdfoster**

Theresa May taking "dictation" on her #Brexit Florence speech tells us a number of important things 1/Thread
As @CER_Grant points out, it shows that UK govt is now deadly serious about a deal.2/
Recall that in August the UK tactic was to confront EU and grandstand over the #Brexit bill. 3/
The fact that by Sept Olly Robbins was squaring away language on the bill speaks to step-change in approach 4/
As a sidenote, also speaks to importance of his move to No10. As direct line to No10, he is man EU can pick up phone to now 5/
In August UK dismissed MFF as "planning tool", but phrase "honour commitments during membership" opens door to full bill €40-€60bn /6.
Barnier welcome of Florence speech as "constructive" was also pre-agreed. But after August backtrack on money, EU wd take nothing on trust/7
This week at post-Florence talks there has been total silence from both sides. Iron discipline. That silence sound of deals being done /8
The UK is agreeing to meet obligations. The EU will help them "presentationally" to obscure the numbers /9
Underplayed from May's speech the UK is also making big offer on jurisdiction by putting A50 withdrawal treaty directly to UK law. /10
If the UK moves enough, Barnier may ask MS to give him mandate to negotiate paralell transition after Oct EUCO /11
Potentially (and we're getting ahead of ourselves here) that leads to a double progress + transition deal in DEC say EU sources /12
BUT here's the serious risk implied in that emotive word 'dictation', which cannot be ignored /13
It speaks to an EU view, audible in Brussels and some parts of Berlin, Paris that UK - like Greece before it - will "take dictation" /14
I hear some on EU side affronted by fact that UK has the idea that this is a "negotiation of equals"; they laugh at idea UK thinks it so /15
This is dangerous. Objectively EU has stronger hand. It can dictate terms. But if does so w/o restraint May will lose argument at home/16
I hear EU dips gloat that May folded (she did) and that "we'll just keep asking for more". But humiliation will be fatal to this process/17
As I said, the sudden silence in Brussels this week speaks volumes. There is a new discipline. A new seriousness. /18
UK Govt needs to be bold in explaining the deal it is making. It is the only course - not made easier by months of pointless grandstanding19
With Tory Conference coming, things are exquisitely poised.

We are at the first real tipping point in the talks.

Fingers crossed. 20/END

Charles Grant‏****@CER_Grant
Yes. Foolish of EU officials to use terms like dictation. Humiliating May not a good way of handling her. Less hubris in BXL please @CER_EU

Rabbits peel very easily. 🤢 There's loads of wild ones hopping round my house, and we even get the odd deer straying into the suburbs.

Lurking Does that mean you will not be one of the nice people in the welsh farmhouse farming becoming self sufficient and making lots of gadgets to improve their lives but rather one of the baddies in the gun toting gangs? You will need to wear leather..........

I'm about to buy a dog, so I should not let myself love it?

In Peru houses often have a little guinea pig mini citadel in the garden, with towers and tunnels etc. cute and practical

LH, I don't like those four dots at the end of your post.

If only renewables were at a more advanced stage. I used to live in the countryside and had a neighbour bit away who had a windmill. It was more a project and he only got a tiny bit of energy from it. 10 years ago.

I lived with just a camping stove for cooking for about a year. I rented a lovely quiet place which was a tenth of the cost of other accommodation. A multi tiered steamer was the best to cook with. I couldn't use the bath either, but had showers everyday at work. I was very happy with my savings. I did have an open fire in my room (rarely used) and a two bar heater for quick heat getting ready in the morning. And layers of bedding with hot water bottle s . I only lived there Mon-Fri. I was out all day, though, and it would have been different with children.

My mother had a cooker which worked on a cylinder of gas, even though we had electricity. She had a range which used solid fuel, though. Bad weather power cuts never bothered us.

I have no idea nor am I speculating on who the spy is no who they were working for.

Its a story which given whats going on, I think should be noted whoever it turns out to be. I believe there have recently been a number of cases in NZ and Australia relating to China, plus we have the whole sorry saga of Trump Russia and Edward Snowdon. And of course the worry it could be ISIS related or it could be an anti-government crackdown.

So as a woman in her 60s (just) who has signed the official secrets act and has links to China should I worry?

goes undercover

Does that mean you will not be one of the nice people in the welsh farmhouse farming becoming self sufficient and making lots of gadgets to improve their lives but rather one of the baddies in the gun toting gangs?

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-san-juan-mayor-tears-cries-us-territory-donald-trump-carmen-yulin-cruz-a7969521.html

I guess we just have to wait and watch and see what happens in Puerto Rico...

Lurking Does that mean you will not be one of the nice people in the welsh farmhouse farming becoming self sufficient and making lots of gadgets to improve their lives but rather one of the baddies in the gun toting gangs? You will need to wear leather..........

Anyone who has read about Nostradamus (not the total load of bollocks that is "Nostradamus") may recall one image he wrote of seeing during a plague outbreak (let's remember all the diseases we will need to be able to keep one step ahead of) which was seeing a person sew themselves into their own shroud, as they knew once they died, no one else would be around to do it. (Or is this a medieval trope ?).

However, back to the question (and the fact DM insisted I learn to sew ). At least it recognises that "community" is the first hope for survival in a post-apocalypse world.

Me ? I'd happily fix anything mechanical (I can strip and rebuild any internal combustion engine, and wire up an electro mechanical ignition system). Although fuel availability could be an issue. (Unless we can dig a working Chieftan Tank from somewhere). I've never paid anyone to do electrics, plumbing or woodwork (mind you that last isn't my favourite). I'd happily swap those skills for bricklaying and farming. That said, if I was to be a gun toting baddie, it would be as part of a community ... remember the Magnificent Seven ? (Yes, leather needed).

Isn't it another another trope that a devastated society, rebuilt from scratch ends up the same as before ? Plus ca change ?

Mind you ...