Westminstenders: The Maddest of May and Boris's Dare

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Boris Johnson just dared May to fire him.

That's what his little rant about £350 million buses is.

Meanwhile its been pointed out that HMRC literally are incapable of handling a no deal and can only cope with an EEA / EFTA deal with no tariffs.

And given how good and on time the government are with computer systems even in a best case scenario are extremely unlikely to crack it in time.

Which makes Hammond's talk of a civil contingence plan, look, well half arsed and lacking.

We also wouldn't have planes able to fly to Europe under a no deal as we would no longer be part of Open Skies. This could leave thousands stranded. But no biggie there.

Meanwhile if the Leave Alliance have things right, May is about to serve our one year notice on leaving the EEA making all these things a reality.

Which is less like shooting yourself in the head and more like shooting yourself in the head, chest, foot, arm, leg and face (for a second time), whilst being run over at the same time.

But hey, Boris Johnson has it sussed in his 10 point plan. Especially the point where he says Brexit will be a success.

If you call success ending democracy, becoming a dictatorship, starving everyone, bankrupting the country and causing civil unrest.

Rule Britannia.

That Times article is actually hilarious and cuts Boris Johnson into little bits. A particular highlight was the painting of BJ's bouncy enthusiasm for Trump's anarchic administration being sadly diminished after Charlottesville. Ouch.

The knives are well and truly out. I think the whole "BJ, the brilliance behind the clown" thing is well and truly over. It's now "Johnson: the slithery opportunist whose clownishness hides a deeper stupidity."

ElementSong "Gosh! Any further details? Guess he just didn't BeLeave enough?"

Thank you for my first proper laugh of the day.

That dave and sam tweet has made really quite angry

...only info I have is linked in tweet

Bigchoc I'm sorry you had an awful experience with your mum

Without going into too much detail we turned up to visit my DB one afternoon and he had a black eye and fingerprint bruises on his upper arm. Sadly DB can't verbalise and has anterograde amnesia so couldn't tell us what had happened. All a doctor could say was that he had bruising not consistent with a clotting disorder.

The carer was moved, but only on the technicality of 'not documenting a seizure' and still to this day works unsupervised with vulnerable adults.

So I do understand and again I'm sorry your mum had to experience such dreadful care.

We know deep down the injuries weren't caused by a seizure btw but couldn't prove it.

Go on, Badders, elucidate why it makes you so angry.

I think we all know that a. 'Dave' and 'Sam' (because, like, they are so down-home and intimate and friendly) were and are 'remainers' b. Dave never thought for a minute the vote would go the way it did.

So, go on, share.

Is it the arrogance? The crass irresponsibility? The fact that they, personally, will be cushioned against the fall-out?

You know you'll feel better if you use your words ...

I won't shed too many any tears for the Camerons. Their money will go a long way to insulating them from the shit storm that Brexit will bring on the rest of us.

Cat...i cant.
It would just be gutteral sounds bad words...

...you know...a bit like Nigel farage...

Really sorry to hear these experiences of the exploitation of vulnerability.

This thread makes me feel sane, amongst friends, hopeful.

I feel sad that these things have happened to you.

cat I try

I worked in a home after a levels at 19.
I share your views re dignitas or similar bigchoc
I left after i reported a colleague for cruelty and the matron just laughed....

'Dave' and 'Sam' can fuck off. Broken, my arse.

"Boris just wants to be loved" apparently

Fuck me - the number of damaged men who cause damage is so scary ..
Nigel farage
Bojo
Trump
All ^ got mummy and daddy issues

My dad (80 and very healthy and active - still cycles and gallivants regularly on long haul holidays ) has already said he will take himself to Dignitas once he feels he is losing his faculties.

We watched my mum die of early onset fronto-temporal dementia, brought on by a head injury while cycling. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy She spent that last 2 years in a home (which was actually very good and caring) and she hated every minute, as she wasn't "old" and she still had her memories (because it wasn't Alzheimer's).

Horrible . She gradually lost the ability to walk, control her movements and even had difficulty talking (some aphasia). She eventually stopped eating - and we stopped forcing her to do so

Pretty im so sorry x

all of us carers

Norfolk Conservative councillor switches to Lib Dems

www.markpack.org.uk/151475/norfolk-conservative-councillor-switches-lib-dems/

Boris Johnson and Michael Gove should be in prison for Brexit “lies”, Apprentice presenter Lord Alan Sugar has said

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-lord-sugar-boris-johnson-michael-gove-vote-leave-prison-jail-lies-350-million-a7877601.html.

^U.K. overseas territories at risk of losing funding after Brexit
The 13 British overseas territories, some of them reeling this week from hurricane damage, will lose access to the European Development Fund when the U.K. departs the EU^

www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/09/13/uk-overseas-territories-at-risk-of-losing-funding-after-brexit.html

Already a bit of naughtiness with gov attempting to use aid budget on British territory.

How you could end up spending a third more on your favourite foods if the UK doesn't get a deal on Brexit
Over three quarters of the food that the UK imports comes from the EU

www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/how-you-could-end-up-13633204

I know this is really sad but I am really glad that social media has made the sharing of these stories easier. I find it helpful (my parents are ageing; I will in time) and it's a real change to hear this and to know about what will inevitably be something I will deal with too.

to all of you.

You know, there is so much pressure on businesses and 'business leaders' to maintain a silence about the impact of Brexit - future and present - which is (for most) pretty negative, that it really should be flagged up as part of the story when businesses/business leaders go public.

I'm thinking of John Lewis here, and others.

We know that businesses have been told to keep negativity to themselves or risk being excluded from access to government but I'm not sure that's true with the general public. When businesses get so frustrated and worried that they go public, that should be part of the story, rather than a focus on 'X business says profits are down as a result of Brexit'. The other part of the story is that they've given up with the silent acquiescence + access approach because they are truly alarmed.

On the tangent I am another who worked in care home as a teen, I am also heading to Swiss clinic if I live that long. We need radical over haul of care for elderly... it's hidden away people don't grasp what actually happens until it's too late and your in it. The legislature for dignitas stuff is all there it's just moral ethics that's needs to be worked out. You wouldn't treat a dog how we treat elderly and at end of life expect people to trundle on indefinitely in pain. It's awful

Guy in charge of brexit just quit...

story has disappeared without trace on the BBC. Interesting, since it was the BBC that seemed to break it.

Regarding the Europol stance ....

would I be correct in surmising that interaction with Europol is overseen by the ECJ ?

to all those currently caring or having experienced the bad side.

Our experience with homes was slightly different, although there was some issues with property theft and some rough handling which the home always dealt with very rapidly often before we'd complain.

In the main, gms carers were wonderful and put up with a torrent of abuse from her mainly of the racist variety . One of the best carers in the home used to look after her most often when others would refuse mainly because of my sister and I standing up for the carer. Well not her particularly, but Muslim folk in general. The lady nearly wet herself when we pointed out to gm that the Muslim carers probably weren't trying to kill her as homes are quite a high drain on tax incomes and doing us a fiscal favour wasn't high on a jihadis priority list

LurkingHusband It's popped up again on my Twitter fed, via the Independent and Vince Cable.

The BBC are somewhat ... disappointing ... in their Brexit coverage.