Westminstenders: The Maddest of May and Boris's Dare

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Boris Johnson just dared May to fire him.

That's what his little rant about £350 million buses is.

Meanwhile its been pointed out that HMRC literally are incapable of handling a no deal and can only cope with an EEA / EFTA deal with no tariffs.

And given how good and on time the government are with computer systems even in a best case scenario are extremely unlikely to crack it in time.

Which makes Hammond's talk of a civil contingence plan, look, well half arsed and lacking.

We also wouldn't have planes able to fly to Europe under a no deal as we would no longer be part of Open Skies. This could leave thousands stranded. But no biggie there.

Meanwhile if the Leave Alliance have things right, May is about to serve our one year notice on leaving the EEA making all these things a reality.

Which is less like shooting yourself in the head and more like shooting yourself in the head, chest, foot, arm, leg and face (for a second time), whilst being run over at the same time.

But hey, Boris Johnson has it sussed in his 10 point plan. Especially the point where he says Brexit will be a success.

If you call success ending democracy, becoming a dictatorship, starving everyone, bankrupting the country and causing civil unrest.

Rule Britannia.

Some of my best friends are Italian.

"But the important thing, Laura, is what I have done today!"
I can just hear Ian Hislop sharpening his pencil.
Must watch HIGNFY this week.

"This speech was for her boss."
Who?

Just seen someone tweet that there's a good Glasgow word to describe that speech....... "Pish"

I fully agree.

Uber is really good news though:

@JolyonMaugham
Retweeted Azeem Azhar
What is anti-business is allowing resentment to build against businesses who raise a metaphorical middle finger to society.

@JolyonMaugham
When our public bodies pursue that short-termist approach they undermine the very foundations of capitalism. Take note HMRC.

Bye bye 'Hard Brexit'!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just cringeing...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3040677-Westministers-May-Shares-the-Cake?watched=1

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Done at speed!

What a waste of 40 minutes. Radio 5 commentator describes May's speech in 1/5th of a single tweet:

"Brussels, give us a deal!"

Not HIGNFY ??? Mock the Week.

As an Irishman, Dara's perspective is telling ....

Her boss? Dacre.

Oh prettybird that's so true. It's pish.

There is nothing there is there. Nothing. I think that's the thing I am most angry about through this whole thing, people making noises and thinking that they have said something with actual meaning. It's like deabating with a cloud.

Woman - it needs to be said in full Glaswegian

Peter Foster‏*@pmdfoster*

Boom. "UK will honour commitments we have made"
#FlorenceSpeech

This was key language EU wanted. Word for word.

I got my spelling wrong and I don't care. It's not like it mattters. Just more vacuous noise.

My dd just asked me what she said and this was my summary...
Actually what she said was give us rainbows and unicorns and we'll help make sure the terrorist don't get you.
Was I accurate?

That's pretty much it Theworld

Although you missed out the "Don't you know how important who we are?"

Down with globalism. Up with Nationalism. And up with isolationalist policies.

Just home from work and Barnier's statement helped me understand what our PM actually meant !
And the consequences, which she did't explain.

< up to 2 years transition, on exactly same terms wrt budget, ECJ, expats rights etc i'm order to keep current Single Market frictionless trade
but I expect they'll insist without MEPs - to get rid of Farage, his misuse of EU funds, his rudeness to foreign MEPs >

'Today, for the first time, the United Kingdom government has requested to continue to benefit from access to the Single Market, on current terms, and to continue to benefit from existing cooperation in security.

This is for a limited period of up to two years, beyond its withdrawal
date, and therefore beyond its departure from the EU institutions.

If the European Union so wishes, this new request could be taken into account.
It should be examined in light of the European Council guidelines of 29 April 2017:

"Should a time-limited prolongation of Union acquis be considered, this would require existing Union regulatory, budgetary, supervisory, judiciary and enforcement instruments and structures to apply." '

"We look forward to the United Kingdom's negotiators explaining the concrete implications of Prime Minister Theresa May's speech. "

You'll have a long wait, Michel !

Do banks in the U.K. even request DOB or nationality when opening an account?

Wrt ID - a few years ago, DD1 spent a semester in France during her last year of university in the US. She was able to open a French bank account using her recently acquired Irish passport, and transferred money from her American account into it. She thus bypassed the necessity of using a credit card and paying foreign exchange rates along with tacked on fees, which made the semester abroad quite an expensive proposition for many of her fellow students. Twas very handy for her to have that Irish passport. It also got her into museums and other places at a rate she would not have enjoyed with her US documentation, and she flew to Dublin and elsewhere in the EU using the EU citizens line. Apart from the incompetence of the French teller and bank officer, she had no problems, and she found customs and immigration pleasant to deal with.

DD2 spent her semester abroad in London and opened an account with her own Irish passport. She was grilled at length at the airport when she first arrived in the UK (using her American passport) and she had to present documentation from UCL stating her intent to study from X date to Y date, her London address, and a letter from her US university to the effect that she was a student in good standing and how she was financing herself while in London (she had to explain that the tuition amount was transferred to UCL directly from her US university, that she had a stipend from her university for travel home, while her room and board amount was transferred into her US bank account - she omitted the fact that she then intended to transfer money to the UK account she intended to open, thus avoiding CC expenses as DD1 had done). She was asked if she would use the NHS while a student (answer 'No, because I am not a citizen') and if she would work (answer 'No, because my visa forbids it') - although she was entitled to work as an Irish citizen she wisely chose not to inform the agent grilling her. She found the officer hostile, suspicious, and brusque.

She found the officer hostile, suspicious, and brusque
And that her mum had been right all along on Irish/ Anglo colonial history. I have found that even US and Israeli border and security officers have more decorum and efficiency than the chaotic and aggressive shitefest which is now british immigration.