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Westminstenders: The wrong homework

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HashiAsLarry · 31/08/2017 21:49

I'm no rtb but I'll give it a shot, though her efforts deserve much more than me.

The August negotiation round has, well, fizzled out in much the same way as any other. It's taken over a year to get to written position papers and there's still no clue as to a direction from the UK government.

Japan, meanwhile, is about to sign off on a deal with the EU. A deal we want to copy.

@faisalislam
^but if post brexit britain's trade deal with third biggest economy in world is to be based on Brussels' deal, what about rest? TTIP? Canada?
...when PM signs off statements like this on primacy of EU-third party deals, one wonders how temporary the temporary customs union will be^

The NHS is now launching a drive to recruit foreign GPs, like the ones that have left thanks to Brexit. It's a good job they'll be £350m a week better off now. Oh hang on...

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NoCryingInEngineering · 01/09/2017 10:13

Thanks for the new thread guys, they make great reading when stuck under a 2wk old milk monster at 3am. One day I'll actually have had enough sleep to manage a relevant reply as well. Nearly managed one about courgettes, but ours haven't glutted this year

AnnieKenney · 01/09/2017 10:15

I've only got three for courgette haters but recipes for veggie haters is a particular talent of mine! In the first two recipes, few people even know they are eating courgettes - the last you can taste the courgette but it tastes so different from what people are used to that you can sometimes get away with it.

Courgette and walnut cake

250g plain flour
2 teaspoons bicarbonate of soda
1 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon baking powder
1 tablespoon ground cinnamon
3 eggs
250ml vegetable oil
300g caster sugar
225g grated courgette
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
115g chopped walnuts
Preheat oven to 180 C / Gas 4. Lightly grease one 20x30cm baking tin.
Combine eggs, oil, sugar, courgette and vanilla. Beat until well mixed. Stir in the flour, bicarbonate of soda, salt, baking powder and cinnamon; mix until just combined. Stir in the chopped walnuts. Pour batter into prepared tin.
Bake in preheated oven for 45 minutes.

Catalan tarts with courgette jam

(you can also just make the courgette 'jam' - it goes very well in a bacon sandwich!)

For the shortcrust pastry
150g unsalted butter
250g plain flour, plus extra for rolling
50g icing sugar
2 egg yolks
2 tbsp (30ml) ice-cold water

For the courgette jam
300g courgettes
175g caster sugar
1 lemon, zest cut into strips, juiced
½ tsp ground cinnamon

OR use shop bought pastry - sweet if you can find it.

For the Catalan cream
500ml milk
6 egg yolks
50g caster sugar
50g cornflour
1 pinch each grated lemon zest and cinnamon
Demerara sugar, for scattering on top

If making own pastry: Rub together the butter, flour and icing sugar. Stir together the egg yolks and water, add to the flour bowl and mix to a soft paste. Wrap in clingfilm, pat into a flattish block and chill until firm.

Roll out the dough to about 0.5cm thick, cut into discs and press these into the pockets of a muffin tray. Chill again until firm, then blind bake at 170C (150C fan-assisted)/335F/gas mark 3 for 20 minutes, then remove the paper/baking beans and bake for five to 10 minutes more, until golden and crisp.

Peel and finely grate the courgettes, place in a pan and cook with 50ml water until simmering and softened. Add the sugar, bring to a boil, then add the lemon juice and zest, and the cinnamon. Cook until thickened, then set aside to cool. Spoon a little of the courgette jam into the base of each tart.

In a saucepan, whisk the milk, egg yolks, sugar and cornflour until smooth. Add the lemon and cinnamon, and bring to a boil, whisking constantly. Fill each tart case with spoonfuls of this custard, set aside until cold, then sprinkle demerara sugar over the top of the tarts. Caramelise the tops with a kitchen blowtorch if you have one or put tarts in fridge until cold and then caramelise for a couple of minutes under a hot grill.

Courgette balls (serves 4)

For the balls:
500g courgettes
½ teaspoon salt
1 hot green chilli, finely chopped
3 tablspoons onion, very finely chopped
1 teaspoon grated ginger
2 tablespoon chopped coriander
45g flour (ideally gram flour but plain will do)
Oil for frying

For the sauce:
2 medium onions, finely chopped and fried in oil
¼ teaspoon turmeric, cayenne to taste
1 teaspoon ground cumin
2 teaspoons ground coriander
1 tin chopped tomatoes
150ml double cream
½ teaspoon garam masala
½ teaspoon ground cumin
Salt

To make the balls, grate the courgettes and put in a colander with the salt. Leave for half an hour, then squeeze with your hands, saving the liquid for the sauce. Mix in the rest of the ingredients, sprinkling flour in last. Mix well and make into little balls. Fry in hot oil until they've browned all over and put them into a gratin dish, in a single layer.

For the sauce - Fry the onions for 7-8 minutes in oil until lightly browned. Add the turmeric, cayenne, cumin and coriander. Stir and add the tomatoes. Add 240ml of the courgette juice (make up with water if not enough). Bring to the boil and simmer for 15 minutes. Add the rest of the ingredients and season.

Pour the sauce over the courgette balls, cover and simmer gently for 6-7 minutes, spooning the sauce over the balls as you go. Cooking in a low oven for a bit longer is another easy option.

lalalonglegs · 01/09/2017 10:21

Thanks, hashi.

QuentinSummers · 01/09/2017 10:29

This is my favourite courgette recipe
www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/633634/chocolate-courgette-cake

Artisanjam · 01/09/2017 10:35

Thank you Annie. Should we keep the other thread going as well (possibly moved to Preppers - the OP would like that!) and sharing gardening tips and recipes for growing as much as possible and using homegrown veg, rather than being dependant on imported.

I'm finding the news so depressing at the moment. I'm hoping it is all posturing before there is a collapse in Government, but at the moment I can't see an opportunity for that to come about. Possibly another single market vote, now that Labour have changed their position, but I suspect they want to take credit from remainers and youngsters for having the single market policy without actually having to deliver anything.

HashiAsLarry · 01/09/2017 10:43

Hope redDS gets better soon
Congrats nocrying
Flowers

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HesterThrale · 01/09/2017 10:47

This is not really how to build up good relations with hoped-for future trading partners. Rees-Mogg calls Junker a 'pound shop Bismarck, arrogant and bullying but without the charm.'

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.politico.eu/article/jacob-rees-mogg-calls-juncker-a-pound-shop-bismarck/amp/

borntobequiet · 01/09/2017 10:51

I realised that on my last post I generalised far too much. A great deal of the public sector is far better organised and efficient than it used to be, judging by recent interactions I've had with various organisations.
It seems to be the big important ones that politicians meddle with all the time that have the most problems.

woman12345 · 01/09/2017 11:04

Rees-Mogg calls Junker a 'pound shop Bismarck
I wonder if Mogg is one of the MPs who have been reporting people to the Home Office. Hester
www.politics.co.uk/news/2017/09/01/mps-using-hotline-to-report-immigrants-to-home-office

lalalonglegs · 01/09/2017 11:27

Jacob Rees-Mogg = Poundshop Alec Douglas Home

Artisanjam · 01/09/2017 11:48

Interesting Martin Kettle article in the Graun:

"That is surely part of the reason – in my view a very large part of it – why the Brexit aims still appear so opaque and why, as Michel Barnier made clear today in Brussels, things are going very slowly. That is because it is in the Tory leader’s interests. May cannot afford to commit to anything specific with the EU until after the Tory conference, especially if that involves compromises on payments, citizens’ rights, the single market or Ireland – some of which are surely inevitable. That would risk mayhem in Manchester. As so often in modern British history, Britain’s interests in Europe are being held hostage by the problems of managing the Tory party."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/31/theresa-may-leadership-brexit-conservative-party-conference

NoCryingInEngineering · 01/09/2017 12:08

Thanks Hashi. She's gained 11oz in 14 days which is not bad going. So I should have plenty of reading time in the next few weeks

whatwouldrondo · 01/09/2017 12:23

[Flowers] for all those with young children to care for, and thanks Hashi.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/09/2017 13:01

I am concerned about the open personal rudeness against senior EU people, from senior Tories

It is really odd to do this, in international relations, even between enemies, never mind people with whom you want to continue a longterm friendly relationship.

Best case:
it is just irresponsible posturing from those who want to build up their support for the leadership contest after May steps down

Worst case:
It is preparation so that DD or even May can announce at the party conference that "EU intransigence" means the UK is walking out of negotiations - and won't return until the EU makes major concessions

Even if a walkout is announced at the party conference, it can happen whenever DD & co decide the EU is really not going to back down and change the building blocks of the Single Market - FOM, ECJ - enjoyed by 27 members, for a country that is leaving.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/09/2017 13:03

Oops, typo: "Even if a walkout is not announced at the party conference"

lalalonglegs · 01/09/2017 13:05

Perhaps a walk-out would be the best thing: the current negotiations seem almost entirely pointless in getting a deal done, perhaps a walk-out would galvanise parliament into action/a vote of no confidence?

RedToothBrush · 01/09/2017 13:15

When talking about no deal keep this in mind:

StephenBush @ stephenkb
Genuinely perplexed how one goes about "planning" for dropping out of Open Skies with no replacement.

RedToothBrush · 01/09/2017 13:17

The EU could function with out it...the UK not so much.

CardinalSin · 01/09/2017 13:20

Does anyone else feel that Brexit Progress Reports should all be being delivered by ?

Corcory · 01/09/2017 14:35

David Davis speaking in Washington at the moment.

Motheroffourdragons · 01/09/2017 14:53

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whatwouldrondo · 01/09/2017 14:55

Do the Home Office have a financial as well as deterrent incentive to refuse visas on a technicality? www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/01/home-office-makes-800-profit-on-some-visa-applications

I notice that the Home Office now advise people on their website to consult an immigration lawyer or professional. Eleven years ago when I was helping someone with their (successful) application the very helpful and respectful officer advised that it was just wasting money and that the process was navigable by someone with common sense. No longer, obviously.

The case in the article is an example of why friends have forked out £7k to get advice, they were therefore made aware of the requirement to leave the country after marriage (which gave them only the three weeks allowed by a tourist visa in which to marry and spend time together ) in order to apply (a 12 week separation). That was even though they worked for International organisations and were bringing their jobs to the UK with them.

Putting every possible barrier in place, financial, bureaucratic, and causing upset and separation......

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/09/2017 14:59

The article below doesn't actually link Cambridge Analytica with the decision to overturn the election so it seems a bit of a stretch to do so in the tweet but it's interesting nonetheless.

RynheartTheReluctant‏
@TheRynheart

Cambridge Analytica worked in Kenya to get Kenyatta elected. Supreme court just overturned b/c election hacking.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/09/01/kenyas-supreme-court-declares-presidential-election-result-null/624115001/

Background story.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40792078

OlennasWimple · 01/09/2017 15:19

That Do the Home Office have a financial as well as deterrent incentive to refuse visas on a technicality? In theory they do, but in practice they aim to reduce the number of applications in order to reduce the number of caseworkers needed (in line with staffing reductions across the UK)

The recommendation to use a qualified immigration lawyer is precisely because of the sums of money involved now compared to 11 years ago.

Am slightly confused why a tourist visa only gave your friends three weeks, though - visitor visas routinely give 6 months leave in the UK (more than most other countries). But nevermind - i'm glad that they were able to get their residency visas sorted in the end

BiglyBadgers · 01/09/2017 15:36

About time for this I think, though will be interesting seeing which sites get covered.

The BBC's Flagship Newspaper Review Is Finally Going To Include Websites
www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-bbcs-flagship-newspaper-review-is-finally-going-to?utm_term=.wi8oozN2w4#.loy22zxmOX

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