Westminsterenders: The Ersatz ImitationThread

[OlennasWimple]

I am no RedToothBrush, so I'm not going to try to emulate her exception OP style.

Here, though, in the interests of carrying on our conversations about WTF is going on with Brexit and the weird political world we find ourselves in right now, is a sort of continuation thread

(Hurry back Red, we need you!)

For an encore, I would request an essay on EURATOM, please.

It is not my field of work. May be remotely related (only the applications in radiotherapy for cancer etc and in basic sciencetific research may be) but definitely not something I have some knowledge of already. I tried to start researching it properly some weeks ago. Made me anemic due to the fact all my blood boiled and evaporated off.
I just feel scared sometimes. We need to invest in high quality STEM education in this country on war-like basis. Just to make sure our public actually understand the arguments about science and tech and could understand why other races are beginning to take the lead.
Just yesterday, I saw the idea of Trump administration to uproot the quotas for students from underprivileged backgrounds (of course ethnicity is a big player!) and the suggestions being put forward by the arses are to abolish it.
FFS! It is blindingly obvious: I have one job. I have two scientists applying for it, one from an underprivileged background( I hope I don't need to explain how 19/20 difference in CV doesn't account at all now?). I would be downright stupid to not give the job to the one with the awful background simply because it shows higher level of competency and drive and attitude to stand besides the other candidate who had been give the opportunities.
So now if they both start from the exact start line, it should be not take rocket science to know who will end up getting further between those two candidates.

wholly
I recommend you search the last ten people who were heads of the Royal Society of Science. See how many of them were first or second generation immigrants. Also check the number of such immigrants among the last ten Nobel Laureates of UK. it is a numbers game really.

Gosh ! (I'll get my coat ...)

www.edp24.co.uk/business/farming/national-trust-boss-helen-ghosh-warns-of-post-brexit-threat-to-farming-and-wildlife-1-5133395

The director general of the National Trust said it could take up to 10 years for support packages to be put in place, so waiting to formally leave the EU will be “too late”.

Helen Ghosh said affordable, high-quality food and wildlife-friendly methods can be secured if the government maintains the £3bn a year support which the industry currently receives under the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy, and reassures farmers that food standards and environmental protections will be maintained.

(contd)

and this

Brexit fisheries BOMBSHELL: Gove vows EU fishermen can STILL use UK waters AFTER divorce

MICHAEL Gove has undermined the future livelihoods of British fishermen by promising the Danes access to UK waters even after Britain has left the European Union (EU).

(contd)

Nice video clip of Mr. Gove promising the exact opposite ...

Ho, ho, Gove says that we can extend our waters to 200 miles. He then has to admit 'or the median line between Britain and France...' I imagine he's not a student of geography.

Why, if we have no fish cutting and processing facilities, aren't we getting on with building them now? Silly question, I know. It's not going to be necessary, because the EU is going to roll over and give us everything we want, but we won't have to pay.

Ho, ho, Gove says that we can extend our waters to 200 miles. He then has to admit 'or the median line between Britain and France...' I imagine he's not a student of geography.

Or maths, it would seem ...

Mind you, post Brexit ...

www.shoutoutuk.org/2017/08/03/putting-it-bluntly-rethinking-the-uks-cannabis-laws/

Putting It Bluntly: Legalising Cannabis Could Give The UK An Extra 2 Billion

The UK’s stance on cannabis has got many around the world asking what are they smoking? Canada is set to become the first G7 country to fully legalise recreational use of cannabis and other countries ranging from Spain, to Uruguay to allegedly North Korea have legalised it in some capacity. Let’s put this bluntly, now is the time to change our thinking on cannabis.

(contd) ...

But this is the same Michael Gove who said all schools should be above average, so why are we surprised?

We need to invest in high quality STEM education in this country on war-like basis.

What ? Like building houses you mean ? You can forget that. Unless by "war basis" you mean a lot of posters put up everywhere. Because that's all any government seems to do in a crisis.

Ireland might also have something to say about a 200 mile fishing limit or has the Government forgotten that Ireland is now an independent country?

It's like a slo-mo car crash

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40811712

The governor of the Bank of England has warned that uncertainty over Brexit is already weighing on the economy.
Mark Carney's comments came as the Bank voted to hold rates and cut growth forecasts.
It edged this year's growth forecast down to 1.7% from its previous forecast of 1.9% made in May. It also cut its forecast for 2018 from 1.7% to 1.6%.
Sterling dropped to a nine-month low against the euro after the downward revision to the growth forecasts.
The pound fell about 0.76% to 1.1063 euros.

www.politico.eu/article/united-kingdom-brexit-eu-david-davis-the-uks-secret-brexit-strategy-so-stealth-even-the-british-cant-see-it/
Brussels fears Britain’s ‘Brexit chaos’ part of cunning plan
‘I think it’s tactics: They are playing for time on purpose,’ says EU diplomat.

Said without irony.

Which minister has employed Baldrick?

www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/a-top-judge-just-warned-that-mental-health-failings-will?utm_term=.fkAweLzKZD#.fqWjpk3ByX
A Top Judge Just Warned That Mental Health Failings Could Leave The State With "Blood On Our Hands"
High Court judge Sir James Munby said the lack of provision for a suicidal 17-year-old girl was a "disgrace to any country with pretensions to civilisation, compassion and, dare one say it, basic human decency".

Munby – who ordered that his ruling be delivered to senior government ministers, including home secretary Amber Rudd and health secretary Jeremy Hunt – excoriates the failure of the public sector to provide for X, saying the state is failing to serve her basic human rights and is putting her life in severe danger.

www.ft.com/content/b3d62bcc-7713-11e7-90c0-90a9d1bc9691?segmentid=acee4131-99c2-09d3-a635-873e61754ec6
Brexit reveals Britain’s enduring flaws
‘Tasking the Brexiters with managing Brexit was like asking the winners of a debating contest to engineer a spaceship’

It’s possible that Brexit — treated strictly as an intellectual concept — is a brilliant idea. However, it was sold with falsehoods and is now being mismanaged.

This is actually a very good comment.

and this is revealing:

The tabloids weren’t fully informed either. Though they always complained that Britain was ruled from Brussels, few of them bothered keeping a full-time correspondent there.

and yep, spot on:

The ruling class doesn’t quite believe it can make Britain great again. Rather, the updated strategy is more or less “America First, Britain Second”.

and this is hilarious:

Brexiters keep accusing Remoaners of “talking Britain down” — again, as if rhetoric shapes reality. They are also blaming Brexit’s unravelling on Britain-hating Europeans. That’s inaccurate. Lately, I’ve been going around asking European elites, from ministers to bankers, about Brexit. Most of these people were shaped by agents of British soft power, from Cardiff University to Arsenal football club to The Smiths. Now Brexit rhetoric is battering their Anglophilia.

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/katie-hopkins-lbc-radio-listeners-audience-chris-evans-bbc-highest-paid-radio-2-nick-grimshaw-radio-a7874321.html
LBC sees audience numbers rise after Katie Hopkins departure
The presenter left the station following comments made about the Manchester attack in May

Ooooo Good!

from RTB's Politicos article:

“In September the UK is going to swamp us with [position] papers on the fault lines — exactly the issues where they know we [the EU27 countries] are divided,” one EU diplomat warned.

Well, we'll see in September but my money would be on a continuing shambles. Are we really so useless that the only logical explanation can be we're faking our own stupidity?

Are we really so useless that the only logical explanation can be we're faking our own stupidity?

as well.

I had a response from my Labour MP on my protest over their hard line on Brexit. Basically she told me to focus on whatever the Shadow Brexit team says (ie not Corbyn) and whatever is in the manifesto.
It is a very thoughtful and detailed answer. I could not have been the only one writing to her.

Valentine We have been training up graduates in STEM subjects. Many answered the call from government, and the prevailing spin that humanities were a waste of time and STEM graduates would be sure of employment. There was a big shift at A level and in course choices. My DDs school went from around 50/50 each going for STEM and humanities / languages to more like 70/30. Now the graduates that emerged at Masters level since last June and this from top universities such as UCL with firsts and decent CVs (joint authorship on journal articles etc.) who were encouraged to follow their dreams of a career in Science research including in the biosciences are struggling to get the entry level research assistant jobs that would have given them the experience to go on to PhD. Brexit and the squeeze on Science research has resulted in such competition for what were entry level jobs that you need experience to get them. If you have not got that experience graduates are coming up against brick walls, and spending months applying for multiple jobs, a full time occupation when each requires a tailored application according to the research project. Obviously any without the support of a bank of Mum and Dad are the first to give up on their dreams and get a job that will earn them a living. University academics and careers services are struggling to address the crisis. Ironic when humanities graduates are still having reasonable success getting into the big management recruiters like accountancy etc. (though that job market has contracted too).

Labour Future
12 mins ·
Labour On Course To Form Largest Party At Next Election, Predicts Polling Forecaster
Labour is on course to form the largest party in a general election but would fall short of an overall majority, according to a tantalising new forecast.
Jeremy Corbyn could lead Labour to 293 seats, according to a prediction by Electoral Calculus.
If the study was proved right, Corbyn could make it into Downing Street with the support of the SNP.
The research will also sound alarm bells for Labour, however, because it suggests that if new constituency boundaries were in force then the Tories would win 278 seats, 14 ahead of Labour.
Electoral Calculus (comparison with 2017 election)
Conservatives: 288 (318)
Labour: 293 (262)
SNP: 35 (35)
Lib Dems: 12 (12)
Plaid Cymru: 3 (4)
Greens: 1 (1)
Prediction based on polls from 11 to 19 July.

I concur with what ron says about science research jobs.

And note with disappointment that we were to benefit only from a Leaver's drive-by pearl of wisdom on the subject. Why won't they come back and bless us with their learned insight into EURATOM next?

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Our biter today is quite a rabid one.

The 12 weeks for the Philips man who was calling for someone to attack Gina Millar sits oddly against the four men who got life for plotting terrorist offences. The Philips' guy had also called for someone to be cut up into pieces before that.

This guy below who falsely claimed disability (received £7,000 in disability) got 20 weeks. Not a crime against a person or incitement or plot for such.

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ex-paratrooper-who-won-triathlon-13426120

against the Philips guy below getting only 12 weeks for calling for a crime against a person

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/13/viscount-jailed-for-offering-money-for-killing-of-gina-miller

Something is wrong there. He incited and fished for a hit while offering a reward. Different from giving your opinion on something.

woman The next GE will not be fought on the new constituency boundaries:
May has been firmly told this by Arlene - because the new boundaries would give Sinn Fein more seats than the DUP