Westminstenders: The Negotiations Continue - The DUP ones

[RedToothBrush]

Tomorrow is the Queen’s Speech. In honour of that the start of this thread is written in its honour:

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Immigration is bad. Except for that good immigration.
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Brexit means Brexit
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Pilot scheme.
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Money for –the DUP-- NI
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Brexit means Brexit
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The Internet is Bad. Newspapers are good.
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Brexit means Brexit.
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Britain wave your flag.
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(The Queen’s turns over the page to read the back of the A4 sheet, only to find it blank)

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/23/two-shelter-board-members-derek-myers-tony-rice-quit-after-grenfell-tower-fire?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Two Shelter board members quit after Grenfell Tower fire
Chairman Sir Derek Myers and trustee Tony Rice resign amid internal disquiet over charity’s response to disaster

Two board members of the housing charity Shelter, including its chairman Sir Derek Myers, have resigned amid reports of internal disquiet over the organisation’s allegedly muted response to the Grenfell Tower fire.

Myers is a former chief executive of Kensington and Chelsea council, which owns Grenfell Tower, while trustee Tony Rice is chairman of Xerxes Equity, the sole shareholder in Omnis Exteriors – the company that sold the cladding used in the tower.

On Friday afternoon, Shelter confirmed the pair had resigned from the board but offered no reasons for their departure.

That feeling when you know that this is going to get really murky and dirty when you scratch beneath the surface....

www.cer.org.uk/insights/hard-brexit-soft-data-how-keep-britain-plugged-eu-databases
Hard Brexit, soft data: How to keep Britain plugged into EU databases

Retaining full access to EU databases fighting crime and terrorism will not be easy for Britain. Any deal will require a role for the European Court of Justice and keeping EU privacy laws.

So that's EU citizens rights and access to crime and terrorism data bases which rely on retaining the ECJ.

Good stuff.

Murky indeed.

I don't think many folk have much faith in charities anymore.

How are people appointed to the boards of charities anyway.

Red that is shocking. What were they doing on the board in the first place? Where are the community leaders

Yes I didn't see one announcement from shelter. Now I know why

My only involvement with shelter was for a relative who had been attacked by their landlord and they were useless.

A psudeo charity for the vulnerable

Am firmly convinced co operatives should be created to manage social housing

This is SOS reporting first hand on the state of the NHS. Evening all I'm back!
Thank you all for your best wishes and my haven't you all been busy!
Reason peeps being evacuated is cos same contractor who worked on Grenfell worked on their refurbs. Will be out of their homes for 2-4 weeks. This goes deeper than the cladding.
You all talking food? When I'm starving lol! No hope of IKEA meatballs or salmon in hospital! Peace to all will be lurking now xxx

Red.

Brexit supporters knew all about this and every other big or small impact on leaving surely? Sarky face smiley.

And they have only had one meeting. God the layers to be peeled away are just not receding at all are they. If anything an appalling vista will be unleashed. No preparation, no ideas. Just soundbytes.

I get the feeling that even hard Brexiteers in the Tory party are getting an attack of the vapours as we speak. Unless they have foreseen and planned for all this within two years, one meeting a month. Great.

Labour should just cut it out and pin their colours to the mast. The wind is blowing the opposite direction now I think. But give it a few more months maybe to see how well prepared Brexit negotiators are, and then jump ship.

Sorry for all the maritime refs. Sinking ship is another, ah scratch that for now.

Brexiteers are like the Captain of the Titanic shouting "But this is ship is Ice Berg proof!" as the ship goes down.

They give sane Leavers a rather bad name.

Remember when Loathsome tried to explain economics to Krugman. I've only watched a small clip of tonight's interview but Maitlis looks furious.

Labour should just cut it out and pin their colours to the mast.

Actually, as the opposition, Labour may as well just sit on the fence, and watch the Tories explode. Once that happens, the tide will probably be turned well away from "Leave", and they can swoop in and pick up the pieces.

(Too many metaphors, but you get my drift.)

Andrew Allison ‏*@andrew*_allison
Am I the only one who thinks Camden Council has massively overreacted tonight?

That's Andrew Allison Head of Campaigns of the Freedom Association. The Freedom Association are neo-liberal ultras and red tape opponents.

does chin stroking action

Its a problem with the gas as well as cladding. Its to do with internal refurbishment of those 5 blocks done by same contractor who did internal and external refurbishment at Grenfall. On Skye news.

Grenfell.

Peace to all nurse lurking!

I was sent a Labour questionnaire a few months ago asking me to rank issues in order of importance. I found it very frustrating that they had "Brexit" as an option. It seemed incredibly poorly designed - Brexit is very important to me as I think it is going to be a disaster, but someone else might tick that because they believe in Brexit and want it to happen.

I'm holding out hope that Labour policy on Brexit might change after their conference, especially if the tide of public opinion seems to be turning. Any party members who can comment on whether this is likely/possible? I seem to recall reports that the party conference last year just ignored Brexit entirely

How did Camden council sign off the work?

Its one thing to say that the cladding was not the standard they ordered. Its another to go, errrr well actually the gas pipes that were fitted, errrr we suddenly noticed they aren't safe.

Or forced labour for those on jsa?

They will need somewhere to stay, you know just so that they can get to work more reliably [angel], maybe build some houses that they can go to work from, well maybe just a big house to go to work from......what could we call it I wonder

Quote from the wonderful Kate Tempsets set at Glastonbury...the most political Glastonbury ever and it's only day one

Murdoch headlines leeches for the letting of our blood lost, blame it on the migrants suffocated in containers, blame it on the Muslims or whichever current favourite takes the weight of our collective hate and keeps the nation safe

Love her

Red earlier describes the 80% support Brexit fallacy statement as Basically its a political construct to try and drive debate and subsequent actions in a particular way.

Not drive debate but shut it down

but more fool them if they think that they can shut us up

Like I said upthread or in a previous one, I wrote to Labour MP to tell them a vote for them was most emphatically NOT a vote for Brexit (or Corbyn) and the party should not take the result/voters for granted if there is another election later this year.

Oh yeah, I explicitly referenced that bogus 82% in favour of Brexit stat, as it was already in circulation on 9th June.

my Labour MP

Sadly our Labour candidate didn't quite manage to unseat the Tory incumbent. Is it worth writing to a different Labour MP to say I voted Labour but I oppose Brexit & am not happy with Labour stance?

It can't hurt brains.

Ann @ahddrv
Downing St confirms that private landlords will NOT be compelled to test for flammable cladding. Wow. Says it all really

@mattzarb
From the party that voted against ensuring landlords make homes fit for human habitation