Westminstenders: The Negotiations Continue - The DUP ones

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Tomorrow is the Queen’s Speech. In honour of that the start of this thread is written in its honour:

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Immigration is bad. Except for that good immigration.
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Brexit means Brexit
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Pilot scheme.
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Money for –the DUP-- NI
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Brexit means Brexit
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The Internet is Bad. Newspapers are good.
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Brexit means Brexit.
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Britain wave your flag.
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(The Queen’s turns over the page to read the back of the A4 sheet, only to find it blank)

Any kind of early deal with Tories...best result for them. Still in power, risk and responsibility laid off, could get all boasty that they'd 'listened'. Far too early for that. Total incompetence in EU must be laid bare for longer.

The hard right has just been shown the door.

They can't win on social media, they can't win in elections.

They have had it.

Bojo just got skewered by Kathy Newman too. He's had it too.

Not quite the dead parrot sketch, but the tory/ukips are no longer in the land of the living, etc.

Haven't had any grannies for a long while, but I'd sell anything for a Macron, Merkel and EU membership.

And tbh if the whole of Labour can't bring down the government, how are the hard right going to?

By voting against a hard brexit?

They are given too much consideration when they should just be dismissed as cranks.

Tory hard right a threat? Who?

The WhatsApp Tory Right Group who like to make a lot of noises and would like this country to be like India with 2nd and 3rd class on trains accordingly.

They are given too much consideration when they should just be dismissed as cranks.

Well yes, but May listened to no one else but them since she became leader...

For us senior/ approaching our prime posters:

This tory party is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed May to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Its metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'It's off the twig! 'It's kicked the bucket, It's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! This is an ex hard right tory/ukip party!

What is the point of this prime minister? Eddie Mair

...and look how well that's turned out for her....

John Redwood‏*@johnredwood*
Those of us on the Conservative side need to provide a better offer to students & young people. We also need to help them become homeowners.

Yes. And...

I think after 7 years and Brexit, they might be not inclined to listen too much.

Where was that in the Queens Speech btw?

Personally think May has been on her own with Hill/Timothy thinking. And when it looked like she was going to get a thumping majority, not really under pressure from within party...they allowed her space to do what she wanted. Only when that thumping majority looked fragile did pressure exert and boom.

'brexit' will be seen as an embarrassing episode in the years/months to come.

That's what I keep telling myself woman
I hope we are right...

there is informed chatter that the Commons will probably now not sit in September, and MPs won't get back to work till October.

The logic of extending their break is that estranged Tory MPs will be less well placed to plot and scheme to get her out.

Government planning is now all about giving her enough time and space for her to get her mojo back, so that her own MPs and members stick with her - at least for a few more months

www.itv.com/news/2017-06-21/how-close-to-collapse-is-mays-deal-with-dup/

Untenable government.
Untenable 'brexit'.

Me too Mrsmartell08

Get her mojo back?! I'm not sure it was there to start with....

I love a bit of Monty Python woman

Cathy Newman‏ @cathynewman

Here's @BorisJohnson refusing to stand for the leadership until after #Brexit in 2019 #C4News

twitter.com/Channel4News/status/877608358332829698

That's the Boris who is known for telling the truth or the Boris who dropped out of the last leadership contest after realising he didn't have enough support and didn't want to be embarrassed publically.

Take your pick.

"Nobody expects the hung parliament Spanish inquisition!!"*

• except they did. They were required by law to give 30 days notice

He's not daft...no one wants ownership of this clusterfuck

The hard right have 80-100 Tory MPs, plus up to 10 Labour MPs - Hoey & co - would probably back them on Brexit.

The choice for hard right MPs is between achieving their "WTO" Brexit several years later, or not at all
vs
risk bringing down their own govt, which would inevitably lead to JC as PM and strong left policies reshaping the country and taxing their wealthy friends.

However, if the other parties support several years of EEA transition, then they can't actually stop this.
So they could bring down the govt (as a punishment ?) only after Brexit has been completed

The PM / Tory party will have to choose between angering their hard right by a sane Brexit - possibly sparking an internal civil war
vs continue giving in to them - and then being out of power for a generation after crashing the economy.

I agree woman This govt is a dead parrot

The long break until October may be to allow the option of a quick leadership change - possibly again just among MPs, with the weaker of the final two - Hammond vs DD - dropping out.

The Tory Party^ Conference^ will be held in Manchester, 1 - 4 October
So, they might want to present the new leader then, for acclamation: the don't attendees can hardly say "no" without huge embarrassment !

That would mean a new PM when the Commons sits again

That depends on "men in grey suits" (1922 committee) informing May that illness causes her to step down

BBC 2 now 'Brexit means Brexit: The Unofficial Version'

The bitter battle to Govern Britain after 2016's Referendum

Looks good so far...

there is informed chatter that the Commons will probably now not sit in September, and MPs won't get back to work till October.

I think they should get no more than 4-6 weeks leave a year like the rest of whilst Article 50 is hanging over us and pull their bloody fingers out. No sleep 'til this damned mess is settled. Sitting on their hands until October/party conference season to allow for yet more internal effing party manoeuvring? I am fighting back a tidal wave of invective. No, no, NO! Bastards. Who do they think they serve?

illegitimateMortificadospawn I agree. While the pound goes into a tail spin, and a long hot summer of white alt righters in bowler hats marching through Catholic neighbour hoods, and god knows where else, there will effectively be no accountable government for 12 weeks or more?

They still seem to think the old adage about them being the natural party of government in Britain still applies. It doesn't.

The police and health services are holding it together the best they can, but having no government, not governing and not negotiating a non brexit is just untenable.

You have to admire their ineptitude and amorality. To take a functioning, reasonably solvent peaceful democracy in 2010 and turn it into this.