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Westministenders: The bookends to a year of political chaos. Just how far have we come?

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RedToothBrush · 16/06/2017 18:50

The 15th June 2016.

The Thames was filled with a flotilla of boats in a publicity stunt for the Leave campaign to draw attention to fisheries. Nigel Farage and Kate Hoey in their heads thought they were Leonardo and Kate, but the moment was rather more titanic in nature and could not have been more Alan Partridge if they had tried. Coming up behind was Bob Gedolf in a shameful and cringeworthy display of swearing and abuse that really didn’t help the Remain camp in anyway. Largely unnoticed was a small boat with a family following it all unfold…

The next day things went from fiasco to horror.

Farage unveiled the Dog Whistle Poster and Jo Cox was murdered. And the UK seemed set on its course for 7 days later when the world was turned upside down by the referendum itself.

14th June 2017.

Fast forward 365 days later and another tragedy unfolded. This time of a very different nature but with no less political significance.
Grenfell.

A moment of national shame. A symbol of so many things that had come to pass in the previous twelve months.

The election just the previous week had changed the direction of travel we seemed to be headed and left the Prime Minister exposed and looking wildly out of touch. The Maybot was given one more chance.

And the Maybot seems to be failing the test of her party who had the grace to grant her a second chance.

The Queen dressed in the same shade of blue, May delivered her ‘victory speech’ in, ignored the security threat and visited the ranks of the poor and the forgotten. A deliberate message to May not to forget who she serves? A Queen who feels aggrieved and angry by May’s behaviour? Who knows.

As for Brexit. The government looks lost. Adrift. The ‘Fight of the Summer’ over the EU’s plan for talks sounds out the window despite the denials from the Brexit Department. Hard Brexit is still on the cards. Apparently. But what does anyone believe now? May’s and the Brexiteers domination of the agenda is shattered, its power starting to be questioned.

What next?

This evening the anger is building.

Who knows, what will happen. Some of it might be predictable, but the future is far from certain and we have definitely entered a new era. We just don’t know who will lead it, or what its ambition or what the end goal now is.

What we do know, more acutely than ever is that we are all human and the wise words of Jo Cox about having ‘More in Common’ ring though ever more strongly.

Once again we feel ‘on the brink’.

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RedToothBrush · 20/06/2017 17:34

Jessica Elgot‏*@jessicaelgot*

NEW: @joswinson is the new Lib Dem deputy leader
Congratulating her, @timfarron calls Swinson "the future of the Liberal Democrats."
In case you are thinking of congratulating the Lib Dems on mercifully swift elections, Swinson didn't have any opponents

I do wonder if anyone will stand against Cable...

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citroenpresse · 20/06/2017 17:35

Hammond...no visibility in the campaign and now he's all over the shop

Peregrina · 20/06/2017 17:39

For those that do want to hark back to WW2 as some sort of apogee of Empire, I would suggest studying other participants narratives of how things went. They're not quite so Anglo-centric, and paint things very differently.

I visited Lidice (scene of a massacre in reprisal for the murder of Richard Heidrich) in what is now the Czech Republic, when it was still under Communism. Judging by the film shown in the visitors' centre, the war was won entirely by the Russians. No mention of anyone else.

pointythings · 20/06/2017 17:45

sostenueto the UK had the best possible deal. It was called 'being in the EU'.

I don't for the life of me understand why anyone ever fell for all the bullshit about bendy bananas and curvy cucumbers.

Mrsmartell08 · 20/06/2017 17:46

But...hang on...
Surely the QS can't go ahead with no agreement between Tories and dup?

QuentinSummers · 20/06/2017 17:47

sostenueto the UK had the best possible deal. It was called 'being in the EU'.

Yes. With a veto and a rebate. WTF are the Tories thinking of. Why can't someone just say "let's stop this".

RedToothBrush · 20/06/2017 17:51

Surely the QS can't go ahead with no agreement between Tories and dup?

Yes it can.

The vote on the QS isn't automatically a no confidence vote.

Consequence of the Fixed Term Parliament Act I believe.

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WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 20/06/2017 17:51

Yes. With a veto and a rebate. WTF are the Tories thinking of. Why can't someone just say "let's stop this"

This with bells on

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woman12345 · 20/06/2017 17:58

Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013

If the House of Commons, with the support of two-thirds of its total membership (including vacant seats), resolves "That there shall be an early parliamentary general election".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011

Sticky.

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 20/06/2017 18:25

Need a couple of laughs? I just listened to Alexis Sayle on R4 this episode is political beliefs. Made me laugh especially the last 2 minutes on Boris

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0832mwg

BertrandRussell · 20/06/2017 18:42

"Red I think you may be reading too much into the gift. I think DD told a minion "I need a gift for Barnier, he likes hill walking".

Minion Googles, finds book about mountains featuring a Frenchman (rather than an Englishman) - job done."

I used to be a civil servant. If that was the process, things have gone down a long was since my day.

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 20/06/2017 18:49

Red There's not much to choose from. Cable would be good. Always struck me as leftie. Would stand up against JC and the Tories when need be (if JC gets in or Tories carry on)

NotDavidTennant · 20/06/2017 18:57

I suspect Cable will take over as a stop-gap, with Swinson being lined up to succeed him in a couple of years.

woman12345 · 20/06/2017 19:06

everthibkyouvebeenconned and then I ..........Grin great stuff

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 20/06/2017 19:07

woman I actually clapped at that one!

woman12345 · 20/06/2017 19:42

Alternative 'royal' for tomorrow: The big yin (Billy Connelly) as Bonnie Prince Charlie, but with tea cosy crown, amongst other things.
Portrait by Rachel Mac Lean

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