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Brexit

Westministenders: Strong and Stable Theresa Date with Destiny

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RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 01:54

WELLLLL

Its just before 2.00am.

So far its the YouGov model all the way. Still a long way to go but, the Cons are not getting the top of their target list and Labour are doing very well in seats they just 'shouldn't be'.

Corbyn is now favourite to take the poison chalice of Brexit, but they may not be the largest party yet.

This is looking right now like 1974 not 1983.

May's potted regardless. I look forward to her resignation speech. Its still entirely possible that our next government is a Tory Minority under another leader.

The LDs are having a rough night so far. They are loosing deposits all over the place as they are squeezed out. But they still might hold the balance of power yet. Though they are pledged not to go into coalition.

Another election in the autumn? Brexit delayed and going soft and squishy?

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HashiAsLarry · 09/06/2017 11:57

@carryonkeith
With the Tory party in chaos, it's Michael Gove I feel sorry for. He must have absolutely no idea who to stab in the back.

LurkingHusband · 09/06/2017 11:59

Not in the eyes of UKIP voters

Who disappeared like geezers selling knock-offs from a suitcase when they hear sirens ...

Along with "No Tory Majority" (which seemed a long stretch this time yesterday) one of my "mini-goals" was the collapse of UKIP ... hopefully this is the start.

Kaija · 09/06/2017 12:00

There's a part of me that thinks this is not the worst outcome for May, and that she knew this, having backed herself so comprehensively into an impossible hard Brexit corner.

The alternative of going forward as PM having committed to a position that ensures national economic disaster would probably have been worse for her than this shambles even if she's gone by next week.

Could she have just thrown the election?

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:00

Here comes Tim.

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FinallyThroughTheRoof · 09/06/2017 12:01

It will seem a bad outcome when she resigns.

whatwouldrondo · 09/06/2017 12:03

Red Yes that was exactly the point I have been making all along that national methodologies did not work here.

Peregrina · 09/06/2017 12:06

Has this link been posted about Theresa May's effect on the constituencies she visited?

OlennasWimple · 09/06/2017 12:06

I said it last election, but if the answer to anyone's electoral woes is the DUP, the wrong damn question has been asked

OlennasWimple · 09/06/2017 12:10

The collapse of UKIP (who frankly should have thrown in the towel after the Brexit referendum outcome, given that that was their whole raison d'etre) is one of the big, brightly shining lights of the last 24 hours

Yy to hoping that Question Time et al remember how important the electorate now deem them to be. I wouldn't overly object to NF popping up on HIGNFY from time to time, but nothing more

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:11

Good tribute to Nick Clegg.
Its better than the one Cameron got...

Says Clegg put country before party. History will judge him well. May did the opposite and she should be ashamed. Should resign.

RE: Coalition: no deal is better than a bad deal.

Mandate for 'extreme brexit has been rejected by the British public'.

It is inconceivable we should start talks in two weeks. She should reassess and present to the public delaying talks.

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RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:12

Could she have just thrown the election?

Read numerous threads about May's track record from David Allen Green.

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CleopatraTheCatLover · 09/06/2017 12:13

What a major fuck up for May. I'm cock a hoop that labour won in Ipswich and Ben Gunner has been ousted.

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:17

Nicola Sturgeon, says achievement more remarkable as two party squeeze has put pressure on that.

Pays tribute to Alex Salmond.

Tories caused chaos on an epic scale. The prime minister has lost credibility. Have put the interests of the tory party ahead of the country.

There MUST be an attempt to find consensus. We can not continue on the path we are on.

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LurkingHusband · 09/06/2017 12:18

Our constituency was + 10% to Labour and we have the first female Sikh MP ...

LurkingHusband · 09/06/2017 12:18

There MUST be an attempt to find consensus. We can not continue on the path we are on.

Currently the consensus will be between Tories and DUP...

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:18

Waiting now for May to go to Buck Palace to get ROASTED by the Queen. I'm am fairly sure the Queen behind those doors and in private will not be a happy bunny with May.

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MsHooliesCardigan · 09/06/2017 12:20

Oh the irony of all the scaremongering about a 'coalition of chaos' if TM ends up in a coalition with a bunch of loons.

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:22

Kevin Hector‏@kevinhector
UK: this Article 50 negotiation isn't working
IT Support: have you tried restarting it?

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RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:23

coalition with a bunch of loons

Don't forget the relationship between the DUP and NI terrorists...

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FinallyThroughTheRoof · 09/06/2017 12:25

Yes. What hypocrites Tories are.

squoosh · 09/06/2017 12:27

'Senior DUP figures claim they moved quickly to form a coalition to stop any chance of Jeremy Corbyn from entering No 10 because of his and John McDonnell’s ties to Sinn Féin and the IRA.'

Lol.

HashiAsLarry · 09/06/2017 12:27

I notice the possible rainbow alliance are largely sticking to their guns of no coalitions. Don't blame them either, let the Tories deal with the brexit shit show. But I hope labour actually start opposing now

Kaija · 09/06/2017 12:27

Yup

LurkingHusband · 09/06/2017 12:29

Surely out of 319 Tories, there must be one or two who will be very unhappy about needing the DUP ...

Historically, how long can a government of this makeup survive ?

One of the most interesting comment last night from Curtice, was the downside of snap elections is that the electorates first thought is "what's around the corner????"

In this case, that may have been a big factor ?

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 12:29

Alex Wickham‏*@WikiGuido*

When May addressed CCHQ last night she kept repeating "the party lives to fight another day". It was not a rousing speech.

Brendan Cox‏*@MrBrendanCox*
So many faces, so much egg. #GE2017

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