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Westministenders: The Election Car Crash

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RedToothBrush · 06/06/2017 15:42

I was thinking about how I could sum up the general election campaign and well. This said it all.

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howabout · 06/06/2017 17:04

YouGov model movements make sense to me. Reflect what Survation showing and my gut that Tory vote softening and people thinking better of it and transferring back to SNP - whole range has moved upwards. Might also be small offset back to Labour too.

High point Labour estimate now 300 and SNP low of 32 for ref to my earlier tinkering.

I think commentators are generally missing how significant the pan out of the SNP vote across 59 seats could be. In latest polling their support is back up from 2% of UK to 4% but no offsetting drop in Labour and evidence of drop in Tory vote in Scotland. Kind of reverse argument re Labour support concentration in English cities.

HashiAsLarry · 06/06/2017 17:17

The price of a loaf of bread questions are stupid and annoys me because it varies so much.
This is very true. I know the price of the loaf we buy is normally 90p in most shops. I also know it was 80p only two months ago

TheElementsSong · 06/06/2017 17:18

I've been getting the YouGov voter intention one on a regular basis (I live in an interesting constituency).

TheElementsSong · 06/06/2017 17:19

Oh, and thanks for another great new thread, RTB Blush

BiglyBadgers · 06/06/2017 17:23

Because I love you all and think your threads are wonderful I want to present you with this beautiful example of the wonder that is democracy in action in the form of the campaign video for Lord Buckethead. I have no idea what his policies are, but it a is truly a moveing song and good to know that in maidenhead even space lords have someone to represent them. Grin

prettybird · 06/06/2017 17:35

I think I was part of the first wave of YouGov rolling forecasting: first time I'd been asked detailed questions about the election and my constituency (always seemed to miss the political questionnaires although sometimes got them as a voluntary add on to the end of a questionnaire in a different topic).

Haven't been surveyed since - although I keep checking so I can add my two pence worth again Wink

woman12345 · 06/06/2017 17:49

Lord Buckethead Love it thanks bigly, don't it make you proud to be a country which includes Lord Bucketheads. Smile

woman12345 · 06/06/2017 17:56

In Newspeak House in east London, a loose coalition of young, idealistic ‘political technologists’ are trying to fix broken parts of our electoral system. Can they give voting a digital shot in the arm?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/06/democracy-theres-an-app-for-that-the-tech-upstarts-trying-to-hack-british-politics

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whatwouldrondo · 06/06/2017 18:05

My phone sabotaged my thanks and put it on the last thread Grin

Thank you for the thread Red. Will it keep us from falling on our swords? I think there are such huge regional and local variations in attitudes that pollsters haven't a chance with any sort of national methodology. My day has been spent talking mostly to older voters, and any expected strong pro Brexit motivation in their voting intention was entirely absent, not mentioned once. It was all about services, especially social care and the NHS. Just one was going Labour because felt she could trust Jeremy but not the Lib dems, but for that one there were any number who were exasperated with Labour locally for not standing aside to keep the Tories out.

BluePeppers · 06/06/2017 18:07

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CaptainBrickbeard · 06/06/2017 18:20

I am really trying not to get my hopes up but it's so tempting! Please, please let the Tories at least not get their landslide...just reducing their majority would be amazing.

CleopatraTheCatLover · 06/06/2017 18:22

Checking in....

JustAnotherPoster00 · 06/06/2017 18:27

Id happily have YC as home/shadow HS again

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/06/yvette-cooper-personal-attack-theresa-may-armed-police-cuts

Gumpendorf · 06/06/2017 18:32

I'm in a constituency that has been Labour for yonks. They used to weigh the votes here before Thatcher decimated the industrial areas. However it's also strongly older Brexit. Normally I see the usual leaflet from the candidates but that's it. This year, the Tories have been round twice and today received another leaflet and a letter from TM which I picked up by the corner and binned I do hope the students come out for Jeremy - in places like Lincoln which You Gov show as leaning Labour -it could make a real difference.

But I worry about Labour losing seats like mine to an opportunist Tory. I fear Thursday will be a blood bath.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 06/06/2017 18:32

Does anyone who has witnessed the pomp and circumstance of the Queen’s Jubilee, the funnelling of public money into Syrian airstrikes, or the systematic cutting of taxes for the rich really think we’re not paying nurses properly because we simply don’t have the money? Absolutely not: we don’t pay nurses properly because the government makes a choice not to. This fact calls to mind the words of the Texan minister Robert Fulghum: “It will be a great day when our schools have all the money they need, and our air force has to have a bake-sale to buy a bomber”. - Ellie Mae O'Hagan

Says it all really

WeakAndUnstable · 06/06/2017 18:44

Thanks for the new one Red.

Squigglypig · 06/06/2017 18:57

I want to put this on my Facebook but can't. My husband, who works in TV, has just been told he'll be made redundant and apparently the reason is.... Brexit. A fall in advertising revenue apparently.

I don't understand why the Lib Dems are not doing much better in the polls. I've always voted labour and am in a safe (London) seat but there is no way I am voting labour this time as I cannot forgive them for not fighting Brexit.

HashiAsLarry · 06/06/2017 19:00

Just caught the end of the Tory political broadcast on BBC. 'Just think of the promise of brexit'
I am treeza and that's precisely why I'm not voting for you

Alfieisnoisy · 06/06/2017 19:07

I am sick to death of it all now. It's been a tear of politics with Brevity and now this. Politicians on the TV have me reaching for the off switch.

Fed up with the lot of them. None of them can tell the truth. None of them are keen on giving a straight response. I am fed up with screaming 'Just answer the fucking question you evasive arseholes".

I will be glad to see the back of this election but fear for the weakest in society of it's a straight Tory victory because they really are heartless scumbags.

BestIsWest · 06/06/2017 19:07

ta for new thread.

lalalonglegs · 06/06/2017 19:20

JustAnother - The Queen's Jubilee, that reminded me that Gove - who, horrifyingly was mentioned as a possible successor to TM on the last thread - tried to ringfence money for a new yacht for Her Maj. This "gift from her subjects" would have been made at the very height of austerity cuts Hmm.

WifeofDarth · 06/06/2017 19:23

Flowers squiggly. It's shit.

woman12345 · 06/06/2017 19:28

Crick's just said the campaign rallies for JC are the biggest since Churchill. This is a different sort of election.

Eeeeeowwwfftz · 06/06/2017 19:32

Different in the sense that the Tories end up winning?