Westministenders: Theresa's Common People

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She came from Oxfordshire she had a thirst for knowledge
She studied geography at Saint Hugh's College
That's where politics
Caught her eye

She told them that her husband was loaded
The press barons said "In that case have a rum and coca-cola"
She said "Fine"
And in thirty seconds time she said

I want to look like common people
I want to do whatever common people do
I want to eat like common people
I want to sleep like common people
Like you

Well what else could Fiona and Nick do
They said "We'll see what we can do"

They took her to a supermarket
I don't know why
But they had to start it somewhere
So it started there
They said pretend you've got no money
She just laughed and said
"Oh you're so funny"
They smiled "Yeah”
Well we can't see anyone else smiling in here

Are you sure you want to live like common people
You want to see whatever common people see
You want to eat like common people
You want to sleep like common people
Like me

But she didn't understand
She just smiled and held Trump’s hand

Order that benefits get the chop
Tell them all to get a job
Promise to bring back the grammar school
Pretend you don’t think them a fool
But still you'll never get it right
'Cause when you're laid in bed at night
Watching the news talking about building the wall
All have to do is call your mates to fake it all

You'll never live like common people
You'll never do whatever common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
Whilst you blame it all on the EU
Because that’s all you can do

Sing along with the common people
Sing along and it might just get Brexit through
Laugh along with the common people
Laugh about leaving the EU

It’s the most stupid thing that you will do
Because you think that it is cool
You’ll call them a ‘lying foreigner’
But don’t say we didn’t warn you
You’ll regret saying we are better off out
'Cause everybody hates a benefits tourist

It doesn’t matter if you can’t do the math
With all those pockets that you grease
You’ll win the vote in Bath

You will never understand
How it feels to live your life
With no meaning or control
And with nowhere left to go
You are amazed that they exist
And wish they were all white
So you tell ‘The Big Lie’

Get THE flat above THE shop
Cut your hair and get THE job
Trick some mugs and hire some fool
Pretend you are not really cruel
But still you'll never get it right
Instead you're plotting late at night
About which ‘cockroach’ will take the fall
All have to do is call your mates to fake it all
Yeah

You'll never live like common people
You'll never do what common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
As we plan to leave the EU
Because there's nothing else left to do

But ‘moan’ about how we don’t want to leave the EU.

Gah, the bit I missed off my previous post was that the way we pay for care should be earlier on, as a small % of income. Come to think of it we could call it something catchy like 'National Insurance'

I have to say that in my experience the people who tend to be most interested in anti avoidance schemes are the ones with the more modest houses. The archetypal baby boomer with a final salary pension don't tend to have as much interest because you currently have to fund your care from income first, and only dip into capital for the shortfall.

The reason the Tories won't go for something as sensible as this is that it's far too socialist and their mates wouldn't be able to cash in to the same extent as under their new proposed system

Frankly I would much prefer the Conservatives to get involved in fixing the social care system properly more than fiddling with the energy market but I'm getting too long in the tooth to be surprised by how short term our politicians think.

Ds (16) had just come down to rant at to me about the Tories "crackdown on the freedom of speech of the internet" proposals (should that be "Torynet"?): I hadn't mentioned them to him, he'd picked up on the censorship threat via Reddit (his preferred souvenir of information Facebook is indeed for Oldies ). He was commenting about how brilliant Orwell had been in anticipating this dystopian society (then blew his credibility a bit by asking, "Is he still alive?" the innocence and ignorance of youth ).

It was interesting listening to him: he was arguing that the youth of today are not wedded to one party; they'll use social media and the internet to read about different policies and change their vote accordingly.

He does get fed up with Corbyn and May saying that Scotland can't have another referendum and that we're "too poor and won't succeed". He says he'd respect them far more if they said, "We'd rather you stayed with us and I'll campaign for that, but you have the right to decide for yourself". Shame he can't vote in the GE, after having had the chance to exercise his franchise 2 weeks ago.

I just thought I had switched to a pisstake of a UKIP party political broadcast. then Paul Nuttall came on......

On assisted dying, my dad has already said that if the policy here doesn't change, he'll be making his own way to Dignitas when he feels the need.

He's 80 now but I'm hopeful we'll enjoy his company for another 20 years (his mum lived to 89 but was in South Africa and had a harder life; her sister lived to 101 in Denmark. Just a bit deaf towards the end).

He's already organised his finances so that if he has to go into a home, it should be covered - only gradually eating into his capital. But there again, we're in Scotland, so what May is proposing doesn't apply in the same way......

My sister keeps offering to by me a trip to dignitas for my b'day/Xmas present.

I'm only 42....

Age / vote breakdown in IndyRef1
The NO vote were overwhelmingly age 65+ (and even more so the 75+)

Like the Brexit Ref, today's young may reverse the decisions of the 65+ in 10-15 years

In the latest YouGov poll:
Yes: 45% (+2)
No: 55% (-2)

BUT
Age^ 18-49 yrs^
Yes: 57%
No: 43%

Overall leader ratings in Scotland

NS (SNP) has a +2 rating
KD (LAB) has -19
RD (CON) has +10
May has -17
Corbyn has -36

To be fair, curry houses have been complaining for ten years or so that UK immigration rules are going to lead to the end of the industry - and it hasn't happened yet. (The thinking back then was that the industry should be training chefs within the UK rather than relying on bringing them in from overseas - that obviously hasn't happened yet either)

I don't think you can anticipate how you will feel when you face illness and death. Sadly I have been close to far too many young women who faced that reality and what you have left when Cancer strips you of your expected life, your health and even as pain and trauma threatens even your self, is love, of friends and family. Whilst there has been talk of Dignitas in the end none have wanted to leavie that love any sooner than they had to. It may be different when you have had a chance to grow old but I am certainly not going to go gently into that dark night anytime soon.

I wonder how Scottish opinion will change after a Tory landslide and 5 more years of Tory govt a Westminster.
Or maybe 10 more years, or even 15 ....

I don't know why NS kept pushing for Indyref 2 so early.
Their best chance is 2022, which May looks keen to give her.

Olenna The government had a scheme to train young aspiring British chefs in Indian cooking. It collapsed for lack of takers....

My dad is one of the 27% of over 65s who voted Yes

He's determined to live to see Independence.

Logically, it would be possible to train most people to cook a range of curries.
In which case there would be opportunities on training courses and then jobs later

I expect the problem is that the curry houses want family members, not just any old cook.

Of course the hours could be dreadful and many of those who can't find jobs are in that situation because they have to care for children.
Or are not sufficiently physically fit to work long hours in hot kitchens

I didn't want to believe it, but this is an “inselaffe”

"Taxation distinguishes us from apes". Hence, May.
No offence intended to apes.

Suicide has always been plan b for everyone, at every time. Throughout all human history. We know we're mortal and consider its solution.

Modest list of who this has 'influenced' so far.

RIP to all of these souls, and warm good wishes to their loved ones.

calumslist.org
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/more-80-suicide-cases-directly-5634404
www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/27/thousands-died-after-fit-for-work-assessment-dwp-figures

Criminal cruelty from only one party.

And again, this woman purports, like the Nazis, to represent a humane religion. She is a disgrace to the species, never mind her alleged creed.
We all know her type.

That post was unclear. Sorry. Her policies on disability and illness thus far have encouraged suicide. Her death tax encourages it further.
She is monstrous and so are those she is being paid by.

Her Go Home buses gave a permanent impression of nastiness and bullying.

I dislike the way that schools, landlords, even GP surgeries are all being roped in to check immigration status.

Even those with right to remain can feel intimidated, unwelcome, a need to stay inconspicuous
It can put off people going to the doctor when ill, or sending their kids to school.

In our FPTP system, the distribution of votes across seats is nearly as important as their total number.

Polls within a PR system, e.g. in Germany, have a much easier task

I suspect the rise in Labour % share may be because Corbyn is enabling them to pile up their core votes in very safe seats.
However, in more marginal ones, he may frighten away centrist

Spectator: "Labour’s elections team expects the party to be left with just 140 seats after the election"

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/labours-elections-chief-expects-party-cut-140-seats/

"I understand from two very good sources that this working assumption developed by Patrick Heneghan, the party’s elections director, is based on the party’s private data.

This could mean that 89 sitting Labour MPs lose their seats – and means the party considers previously safe constituencies to be at risk."

< Some of the comments are horrid, especially the one claiming politics has "become a possession of .... jewish ethnic organizations" >
< all those MN posters claiming the left is so much nastier don't apparently read comments in the Fail, Speccy etc - or even worse, agree with them >

Watching the 10pm news: is it just me or does Assange look like a Bond villain? Also, the news so far hasn't explained the difference between the Swedish judicial system and ours, where they needed to "arrest" him in order to question him

Still watching the 10pm news: it's a bit pathetic that Treeza almost always chooses to wear her tartan jacket when she comes to Scotland.

Tartan will not make her popular.

BigChoc - agreed. Second / third / fourth generation immigrants don't want to work in the family business when it is tough, long hours, low pay and smelly. So traditional skills and recipes aren't being passed on in the usual way, meaning that they look to bring in family members from overseas. Unfortunately, this is the sort of low skilled immigration that the Great British Public objects to.

(I am also slightly skeptical about job creation in small family businesses, and thus slightly skeptical about the figures touted about the jobs filled by immigrant workers in certain industries. My experience of small family businesses is that the jobs are created to fill the people they have, not that people are recruited to fill the jobs that have been identified. Without the family member the job would never have been created, much less made available for you or me to apply for it)

2D Map of party leaders at this GE:

Yes, the purpose of a family business is to support the family.
Hence it is expanded / contracted according to which family members need work or are available to work.
Its skill set is that of the available family members

Labour are the polar opposite of Libertarian in this election!
And Tories are more left in their policies & state intervention that.

Where is the graph taken from?