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Westministenders: Its WAR. Huh!? What is that good for? Negotiations apparently

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RedToothBrush · 05/05/2017 22:39

Theresa May has declared war on the EU. She is going to be a ‘bloody difficult woman’ after she got caught out by a highly predictable leak.

Apparently, the EU are trying to rig an election she seems almost dead cert to win. They deliberately timed the leak to interfere with an election May decided the timing of. May was not supposed to be at the dinner, but after she announced the election she decided that she had to get in on the act for some reason. Wildly speculating here, but could this be because she wanted the political mileage herself?

No it wasn't a preplanned strategy. Don't be stupid. That would suggest they had the foggiest clue and a plan. Nope, the war declaration was an opportunist damage limitation exercise, used to maximise political capital.

She has now even further alienated the EU. It seems difficult to conceive how any deal will be done. Instead it looks like the election is trying to set us up to crash out. Whether the ‘No deal is better than a bad deal’ happens to make the 3 page Tory Manifesto remains to be seen.

This would leave EU nationals and British national aboard in legal and social limbo.

There is also a feud building over the Brexit leaving bill, which is steadily climbing. We can not progress to the second stage of Brexit without resolving this. Again, this seems unlikely.

Thirdly, a settlement with Ireland is a top priority for the EU, and plans are being drawn up to make allowances for any potential United Ireland. This is a subject that is still to be talked about on any level really. May has been much more interested in the fate of Scotland and battling with Nicola Sturgeon.

That’s the thing. May is like the playground bully who goes around going “Do you wanna scrap ?, Do ya? DO YA?” and generally throws their weight around and most of the time gets their own way as a result. The trouble with the strategy is when the bigger kid comes along and thumps the bully, for being a cocky little shit and doesn’t like their kid brother getting picked on.

The trouble is that May is setting it up, to try and make it look like the poor little Britain has been picked on to her parents, so they go around accusing the big kid of all sorts rather than admitting their little darling is a nasty little shit.

It’s not going to end well is it? You can’t help but feel that at some point they’ll all end up in the Headmasters office and the WTO/UN/International Courts will rule against us for being a bunch of dickheads. No doubt May, will stick to character, hold a grudge and demand to leave them or say they have no authority over the UK.

That or we really will end up declaring war on Spain over Gibraltar. By accident of course. Probably to keep the ConKip party together and avoid a split.

Rule Britannia. Britannia rules. Erm, not a lot these days.

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NancyWake · 08/05/2017 11:50

6 foot deep ?

That reminds me there used to be an old air raid shelter, might come in handy. Gin

BiglyBadgers · 08/05/2017 12:17

Labour might need to come up with a bit more than banning junk food adds and extra bank holidays. I am getting the feeling they are not really thinking about this, mind you maybe they are all rallying round DA, trying to get her maths up to speed.

To be fair they have also said they will not raise taxes for people earning less than £80k and will raise them for the 5% earning over that. This has been pretty widely reported. Their manifesto isn't out yet but I picked this image of Twitter. Also seen some NHS stuff on Twitter, but not really looked at it yet.

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PattyPenguin · 08/05/2017 12:57

I'm having a tooth out tomorrow, the same day the Mays are on the One Show.

I know which one I'm looking forward to most.

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PattyPenguin · 08/05/2017 13:09

Why the One Show? Because TM can get exposure on TV without having to face awkward questions about anything that really matters.

RedToothBrush · 08/05/2017 13:09

David Allen Green‏*@davidallengreen*
Please vote against any candidate, from any party, who wants things "enshrined in law".

Invariably means law is to misused in a daft way.

The One show is cringeworthy at the best of times. Theresa and Phillip with the crappy tenious cheesy links between segments... yuk. Plenty of time for them to look gloriously awkward, like every other guest they have on the show.

Its horribly middle class and pompous. I'm sure its popular with Maybots though.

Matt Baker is one of those people who is endlessly cheery to the point you think his teeth might crack from smiling so much.

(Can you tell how much I love the One Show).

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lalalonglegs · 08/05/2017 13:10

The One Show audience with the Mays will be exquisitely excruciating - relaxed banter really isn't TM's bag. I wonder how long it will take for her to do the evil eyes on Matt Baker.

prettybird · 08/05/2017 13:11

WTF is May's husband to do with the price of fish the election? Confused

We don't have presidential elections in the UK yet Hmm - and even if we did, we wouldn't be electing the spouse Angry

This is part of the plot plan to prove that the strong and stable leader Maybot is actually a human being, as we might be starting to wonder Wink

squoosh · 08/05/2017 13:14

Although when Cameron appeared on the One Show Matt Baker asked him how he slept at night. Maybe he'll manage to aim a barb or two at May.

ElenaGreco123 · 08/05/2017 13:19

Peregrina Thank you for the domino cartoon. It'll go straight on my Facebook page Grin

PattyPenguin · 08/05/2017 13:32

Perhaps Matt Baker will get something in about farming, which in many areas will be screwed without EU payments.

I still won't be watching, though. Tooth extraction and TM on TV together, that's cruel and unusual punishment.

RhuBarbarella · 08/05/2017 13:33

More CA and links in Carole Cadwalladr thread on twitter. Apparently she's taking it to the CPS/Met police. Fingers crossed!
Surely there must be some kind of tipping point.

BluePeppers · 08/05/2017 13:35

Why is she coming with her DH though? Have you ever seen a prime minister coming to that sort if thing with their wife??
I would have though she was supposed to do a TV interview wo a chaperone Grin

BluePeppers · 08/05/2017 13:36

Sorry pretty missed your post and I can see we are saying the same!

Badders123 · 08/05/2017 14:12

I dreamt marine le pen was helping me choose perfume last night.
She had shocking taste....

squoosh · 08/05/2017 14:24

What did she pick for you Badders? Poison? Eau de Fasciste?

Badders123 · 08/05/2017 14:25

Worse....much worse....

LurkingHusband · 08/05/2017 14:39

Why is she coming with her DH though?

Part of the "Presidentialization" of the UK ? After all, a quick scan of MN thread titles reveals people already think they are voting for a Prime Minister anyway ....

Badders123 · 08/05/2017 14:41

She picked meow by Katy perry.
I literally have nothing to say about this.

NancyWake · 08/05/2017 14:42

MIss Dior - smells of catpiss.

NancyWake · 08/05/2017 14:43

Oh xpost.

I was on the right line with the cat theme.

MrsSummerisle · 08/05/2017 15:16

Looks like things are thoroughly Strong And Stable (TM - geddit?) today:

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/08/general-election-2017-tories-migration-brexit-politics-live

Latest Guardian/ICM poll suggests Tories have record 22-point lead over Labour

The latest Guardian/ICM poll is out, and it suggests the Conservatives have a record 22-point lead over Labour. Here are the figures.

Conservatives: 49% (up 2 since Guardian/ICM last week)

Labour: 27% (down 1)

Lib Dems: 9% (up 1)

Ukip: 6% (down 2)

Greens: 3% (down 1)

Conservative lead: 22 points

Martin Boon, ICM’s director, says these poll ratings set a record with his organisation for a Conservative lead over Labour.

This poll is remarkable, and historic. It puts the Conservatives on 49%, and Labour on 27%, implying that 22-point lead. Not only is the lead an outright record for any ICM poll, but the Conservative share is a record in the Guardian/ICM series. It is only beaten by a 49.5% share that we recorded for the Sunday Mirror in May 1983, when ICM was called Marplan. Also noteworthy is the continued decline of Ukip, now measured at 6%, its lowest share from ICM since January 2013.

MrsSummerisle · 08/05/2017 15:22

And here's that same poll again in a handy multimedia format Grin

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