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Westministenders: Its WAR. Huh!? What is that good for? Negotiations apparently

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RedToothBrush · 05/05/2017 22:39

Theresa May has declared war on the EU. She is going to be a ‘bloody difficult woman’ after she got caught out by a highly predictable leak.

Apparently, the EU are trying to rig an election she seems almost dead cert to win. They deliberately timed the leak to interfere with an election May decided the timing of. May was not supposed to be at the dinner, but after she announced the election she decided that she had to get in on the act for some reason. Wildly speculating here, but could this be because she wanted the political mileage herself?

No it wasn't a preplanned strategy. Don't be stupid. That would suggest they had the foggiest clue and a plan. Nope, the war declaration was an opportunist damage limitation exercise, used to maximise political capital.

She has now even further alienated the EU. It seems difficult to conceive how any deal will be done. Instead it looks like the election is trying to set us up to crash out. Whether the ‘No deal is better than a bad deal’ happens to make the 3 page Tory Manifesto remains to be seen.

This would leave EU nationals and British national aboard in legal and social limbo.

There is also a feud building over the Brexit leaving bill, which is steadily climbing. We can not progress to the second stage of Brexit without resolving this. Again, this seems unlikely.

Thirdly, a settlement with Ireland is a top priority for the EU, and plans are being drawn up to make allowances for any potential United Ireland. This is a subject that is still to be talked about on any level really. May has been much more interested in the fate of Scotland and battling with Nicola Sturgeon.

That’s the thing. May is like the playground bully who goes around going “Do you wanna scrap ?, Do ya? DO YA?” and generally throws their weight around and most of the time gets their own way as a result. The trouble with the strategy is when the bigger kid comes along and thumps the bully, for being a cocky little shit and doesn’t like their kid brother getting picked on.

The trouble is that May is setting it up, to try and make it look like the poor little Britain has been picked on to her parents, so they go around accusing the big kid of all sorts rather than admitting their little darling is a nasty little shit.

It’s not going to end well is it? You can’t help but feel that at some point they’ll all end up in the Headmasters office and the WTO/UN/International Courts will rule against us for being a bunch of dickheads. No doubt May, will stick to character, hold a grudge and demand to leave them or say they have no authority over the UK.

That or we really will end up declaring war on Spain over Gibraltar. By accident of course. Probably to keep the ConKip party together and avoid a split.

Rule Britannia. Britannia rules. Erm, not a lot these days.

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/05/2017 21:41

Although, if I had committed to a radical project that could cost my employers a lot of money but I hadn't bothered to do any research or plans ..... then I'd want to keep that very quiet too.
Because I'd be sacked the minute this was found out

Actually this situation would never happen in a commercial firm:
Proposals are always set out in detail with complete plans, costing, timeline, contingencies, risk etc before they would be submitted for approval.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 07/05/2017 21:42

in actual fact, continental Europe was destroyed in an internecine war sometime in July 2016 and has been a smoking ruin for the past 9 months

Well thats my holiday fucked then elements

unicornsIlovethem · 07/05/2017 21:43

There was a tweet from Andrew Neil quoted earlier. I heard last week from someone who knows him well that he is a full on UKIP/ no deal brexiteer so any of his tweets and comments should be thought of through that prism. Possibly hence the disproportionate tv time given to ukip as well.

woman12345 · 07/05/2017 21:43

I've been stockpiling coffee since June, I will simply have to leave when it runs out. Confused I also drink traitors' herbal teas, so I will be able to have that with my turnip surprise.

What tea plantations in the valleys? It'll be like old times then.

There are some angry Brexit bunnies even on the normally sedate twitter accounts I follow.

They're really cross, as in crosser than usual. It can't be good for them, all this anger.

mathanxiety · 07/05/2017 21:44

Illegitimate, yes Wink, but as RTB points out, tea can be grown in Britain, and I seem to recall an article using that fact as an example of why Britain can be completely sovereign, self reliant, or whatever, and regain its rightful place on top of the trading heap, ruling the waves, etc.

Oh and also, Britain did rule Ceylon.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/05/2017 21:44

Peregrina It was the Berlin bureau chief of either the Times or Economist who spotted the Juncker article.
Unlucky actually - so few UK media outlets bother with the expense of bureau chiefs in foreign cities, let alone one who can actually speak the language

prettybird · 07/05/2017 21:45

We're forgetting about whisky as a national drink Grin

But perhaps it's a subconscious acknowledgement that it won't be UKish for much longer Wink gin too apparently Grin

RedToothBrush · 07/05/2017 21:48

I heard last week from someone who knows him well that he is a full on UKIP/ no deal brexiteer so any of his tweets and comments should be thought of through that prism.

No shit... Every interview he's done in the last 12 months has pretty much reflected that.

woman12345, I don't drink tea or coffee.

When the entire population starts getting caffeine withdrawal, I'll be the one sat in the corner quivering as everyone else goes mad.

Are your twitter Brexit bunnies going mental at Macron coming on stage to Ode to Joy? Its almost as if he's trolling... I hope he's as good a Brexit Troll as Verhofstadt!

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/05/2017 21:51

woman I've never been on Twitter, LinkedIn or any social media
< nails grumpy old bag flag firmly to the mast >
Are the Brexiters complaining that the fascist didn't become President of France, or is it still that the naughty EU lifted the veil of secrecy ?

Secrecy has always been a UK govt obsession, under all parties
To an extraordinary extent, compared to other democracies
It's partly why the Uk media is so obsessed with sleb culture - it's a real legal hassle and takes major resources sometimes to dig out what the govt is up to.

Peregrina · 07/05/2017 21:52

Red - are you telling us that the Brexiters don't like democracy in France?

BigChocFrenzy · 07/05/2017 21:53

(I should count MN as social media, of course.
But I don't regard these threads that way)

mathanxiety · 07/05/2017 21:54

Yes! It was tea along with jam that the Loathsome woman was blithering on about.

mathanxiety · 07/05/2017 21:56

When you wake up and smell the whisky, you should probably seek help.

RedToothBrush · 07/05/2017 21:56

Don't forget the British stole tea from China and then grew it in India after being addicted to it for 200 years.

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RedToothBrush · 07/05/2017 21:58

Red - are you telling us that the Brexiters don't like democracy in France?

No.

Remove the French bit.

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Badders123 · 07/05/2017 21:58

I'm fucked...
I eat French butter, Indian tea and German sausage.
😵
Let the stockpiling commence....

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/05/2017 21:59

Tea can be grown outdoors in the very south of the UK in Cornwall. There is a company that is doing so commercially

It is also grown in Scotland... weeteacompany.com/scottish-tea.html

prettybird · 07/05/2017 22:01

Bearbehind : best strategy with goady fuckers is to ignore them Grin

Remember how frustrated the England rugby team got when the Italians chose not to form rucks and to aggravate things, the referee told them "I am the referee, not your coach" ....... That. Grin

Badders123 · 07/05/2017 22:01

....I bet it tastes shit

RedToothBrush · 07/05/2017 22:03

Oh so there IS hope for the Welsh Tea Valleys then?!

Somedays I love twitter

Westministenders: Its WAR. Huh!? What is that good for? Negotiations apparently
Westministenders: Its WAR. Huh!? What is that good for? Negotiations apparently
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SwedishEdith · 07/05/2017 22:05

Love that Macron comes onstage to the EU anthem. Winds up Leavers. God, I'm jealous of the French tonight.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/05/2017 22:05

Is that the 13-yr-old twittering away ?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/05/2017 22:07

I bet it tastes shit

Are you referring to the Scottish tea Shock
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/worlds-finest-tea-is-grown-in-scotland-j58j56rj9rf

Bananagio · 07/05/2017 22:07

Love that Macron came out to Ode to Joy. I know he has a hell of a job ahead but for the first time in many months am feeling an unfamiliar emotion- had forgotten what hope felt like!

BigChocFrenzy · 07/05/2017 22:08

Martin Schulz (SPD candidate) is very popular in Germany - his long experience in Brussels in regarded as an asset, makes him a safe pair of hands

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