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Westministenders: Up Shit Creek without Wifi.

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RedToothBrush · 29/04/2017 22:12

Theresa May is being held hostage.

There is mounting evidence that all is not as it seems at CCHQ. It makes you don your tin foil hat and ask who is in charge.

Theresa May was a Remainer. She suddenly abandoned that when she became leader. Her proclamation of what would follow next seems directly at odds with her actions. This is not her fault. This is her plea for help and way of telling the outside world that she is a prisoner of Brexit.

At first it seemed like perhaps she had been locked up with Brexiteers for too long. She seemed to be developing a survival strategy which seemed totally irrational to outsiders. The signs of intimidation everywhere though. Instead of criticising those who did this, May joined in with them or was complicit in her silence.

Things are now taking a sinister turn. After repeatedly saying ‘No Election’, May crumbled and called one. She has now not been seen in public since. Instead she is being wheeled out at closed events to the party faithful. They are being dressed as mixing with the people but they are no such thing. The plebs in attendance are set to ‘mute’ or locked out completely.

Behold the coming of the May-Bot. She seeks to ‘prevent tourism’ in Wales. She now no longer knows which town she is currently in. (Much less have a plan for Brexit). She accuses an organisation set up to use its numbers to get better deals, of doing what it is supposed to, except she calls this ‘ganging up’.

May is not transported in a bus. Oh no. Instead she travels by the Bond Villian’s choice of transport; the helicopter.

More worrying still is the mantra ‘Strong and Stable’ repeated as many times as possible. It is almost as if, if she says it enough she might start believing it. She certainly has got her party members brainwashed and acting as if they were Zombies. Who needs ‘Spice’ when you are a Conservative? They ‘Believe’…

The ploy is to hoodwink people into voting for May instead of the Tories. CCHQ have removed Conservative branding from literature and campaigning in the North. The party are still too toxic, but May apparently scores well especially against Corbyn. Ironically however negatively I think of Corbyn he does display something May increasingly seems incapable of: humanity.

Many people might think of May as some sort of dictator figure. Its true. Every vote for her strengthens her hand. But not for Brexit negotiations. Mainly because Brexit is without merit or reward. Not unless you hold power. This is part 2 of the grab for it.

This is May’s power paradox. SHE is not powerful. She isn’t persuasive. She isn’t a healer of divides. She relies on authoritarian measures to get her way. This isn’t a sign of her personal power, but a sign of her personal weakness. She is sly and sneaky in her methods rather than compelling others to come along with her. They are doing so more because they dislike the alternative in Corbyn less.

She is not stable. She has lurched from one drama to the next, and has repeatedly been forced to back down from what she wanted. Nothing says ‘stability’ and ‘good leadership’ like appointing Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary. The lady is not so much for turning and leading, but is already staggering around dizzy whilst blindfolded playing pin the tail on the donkey. And Christ she’s got a lot of them in her Government. Including the numpty who decided to do a live event and broadcast it in an area with no wi-fi. Mind you, that is soon to be the entire country. Or what’s left of it.

She had said she had a mandate for Brexit and did not need this to be approved by the country as she was getting on with the job. This is why we are having a General Election to give her a mandate…

Not only that, but there is a lurking question here that should not be forgotten. Who is pulling May’s strings and making her dance as her actions are not natural? Every puppet show has puppet masters behind the scenes of the stage, hiding in the shadows.

They will dispense with their toy once she has outlived her usefulness like every good baddie.

Is she the one we should be most fearful of?

Hold on tight this is going to be a very bumpy ride over the next two years. Just how many casualties will be sacrificed on the altar of Brexit?

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whatwouldrondo · 04/05/2017 10:27

Copper Have you never been in a building that has a mezzanine that is called 5M or 5.5 or similar, and can only be accessed by the lifts in that part of the building? I have both lived and worked in such buildings. Our local John Lewis has two mezzanine floors that you have to either reach by different lifts or go to the top on the escalators and back down the other side. Bloody secretive fatcat organisation..... Never struggled to find my way around even postpartum with a baby screaming to be fed never occurred to me to come up with a conspiracy theory

Callmecordelia · 04/05/2017 10:27

I should clarify, her speech yesterday. She's made so many appalling speeches.

Cailleach1 · 04/05/2017 10:35

The mystery of floor 5.5 of the Paul-Henri Spaak building is solved. Floor five has a meeting room in the middle with a double height void/atrium. There are offices on either side of the top height level of this middle void. They are 5.5 because the floor is incomplete insofar the middle is still the atrium for the middle meeting room of floor 5. They are like a mezzanine floor either side. The offices each side have no physical connection to each other, so you have separate lifts. There ya go. I'm not even an investigative journalist.

Mind you, I am one of those people who goes to reception if I am at a loss to ask for help before too much time has gone by unlike my husband who lets clueless magical mystery tours continue for ages . I have just seen a quote which may be apt in many a situation. "No matter how long you have travelled in the wrong direction, you can always turn around".

Poor architect thought they were creating a lovely high airy middle atrium area for a meeting room. Instead they were in cahoots with the illuminati.

HashiAsLarry · 04/05/2017 10:41

ron surely the name mezzanine alone proves it's an eu conspiracy. Damn those Europeans refusing to dumb down for the brits. Wink

prettybird · 04/05/2017 10:48

Ds was still in bed when dh and I went to vote. He says he'll go later. Typical 16 year old. His first Higher is tomorrow - Maths.

Last year, the Holyrood elections were held on the same day as Higher English. The close reading piece that they had to analyse was a Daily Mail(?) piece by Julia Hartley-Brewer on why 16 and 17 year olds should not have the vote.

A friend who works at a polling station in a secondary school says they were inundated with 16 and 17 year olds as soon as the exam finished, having been galvanised to exercise their right to vote Grin

I had to hold my nose and vote UKIP 6th (4 candidate ward) I still feel dirty: with the current invisible Labour councillor 7th, the other Labour candidate 5th, and current Conservative councillor 8th. The Conservative has actually been quite good on local issues (he's literally the only Tory on the council) but he is the one that said to make it a message about another referendum. So we've followed his advice Hmm

whatwouldrondo · 04/05/2017 10:48

Hashi Too true

In the building I lived in in Asia the lift skipped floor 4, 8, 13, 14 and 24. What to make of what yellow peril lurked there? The same applied in government buildings where sometimes they were listed 3A, 7A, 12A,14A so they were at least honest about what floor the top floor was, imagine how out of synch the actual floor is with the numbering when you are in an 80 floor tower......

LurkingHusband · 04/05/2017 10:50

Just scanning Mumsnet - forget the rest of the internet - has anyone else noticed an increase in the faux-shock that things aren't the pushover some people painted last year ?

My current favourite is [AIBU] To wish the EU would stop being so arsey with us!

Some quite low-Q thinking being revealed there ....

prettybird · 04/05/2017 10:54

You know Cailleach - when "Floor 5.5" was first mentioned, I immediately thought it must be a mezzanine floor. But there again, I'm a reprobate traitor brainwashed metropolitan elite citizen of nowhere Grin

Peregrina · 04/05/2017 11:09

Ds was still in bed when dh and I went to vote. He says he'll go later. Typical 16 year old.

Now my son almost broke his neck to be one of the first at the polling station when he was first old enough to vote. He then went round asking everyone if they had voted yet. Fishing for the family to ask if he had.

I have just been to vote, and had a proxy vote for one of the family who works away. There was a steady stream of people going to the polling station. Not quite as busy as the Referendum, but busier than it has been in the past, I think.

I use to live on a street with a terrace numbered 12, 12A and 14. No, it wasn't an extra house squashed in. Nothing to do with being superstitious of course, just a mistake numbering! Nothing to do with the EU/EEC either, because the terrace was built in the days when we still had parts of an Empire!

BiglyBadgers · 04/05/2017 11:16

I was once late to an interview because I got so confused by the bizarre floor and room numbering system in the building and ended up in completely the wrong place...I was the interviewer and I have worked here for 7 years Blush

It is a local government building though, so I shall put it down to typical government over complexity from now on rather than my incompetence Grin

BiglyBadgers · 04/05/2017 11:19

We voted at 7:30. We all go together, me, dh and dd. DD puts the slips in the box. It was rather quite at that time, but when I dropped her to school later a lot of people were heading to do it then and I had a nice chat with a guy at the bus stop about it who had popped in before going to work.

LurkingHusband · 04/05/2017 11:23

I use to live on a street with a terrace numbered 12, 12A and 14. No, it wasn't an extra house squashed in. Nothing to do with being superstitious of course, just a mistake numbering! Nothing to do with the EU/EEC either, because the terrace was built in the days when we still had parts of an Empire!

"Continental" numbering would go 12, 12b, 14, as "bis" means "again" in quit a few Romance tongues (and, I discovered, in Polish too).

I've often thought that continental addressing was a tad odd ... the UK style is to go from the most specific to least specific ... Person, House, Street, Area, Region, County, Country. But writing to my relatives it's Person, Street, House.

That said, at least the UK does dates properly (gives US a Paddington stare).

prettybird · 04/05/2017 11:23

Grinat your ds Peregrina

Ds didn't want to go with us as he thinks I would want to take a photo of him going in even though I said I wouldn't, indeed that it would be illegal Wink

The most important thing is that we get young people voting. Howabout made a valid point a wee while ago about the extension of the franchise to include 16 and 17 year olds in Scotland might also help increase the engagement of young people, as it gets them in the habit of voting before the full scale disillusion "what's the point" of early adulthood.

HPFA · 04/05/2017 11:25

Contest May's frame for the fight. Try and avoid taking the oppositional position she wants us to take.

RTB - That's extremely interesting because I have a meeting tonight with someone about another campaigning issue. Don't want to derail the thread by talking about an unrelated issue but my campaign idea is pretty much based around not giving May the sort of fight she wants.

BiglyBadgers · 04/05/2017 11:28

This made me laugh..just a bit..

Westministenders: Up Shit Creek without Wifi.
Peregrina · 04/05/2017 11:30

I always remember going with my DM when I was a child. It's a good way to encourage children to believe voting is important. I do get annoyed with people who don't vote, when we fought hard for universal franchise, and when there are other countries where people are denied the vote.

Perhaps, eventually, one good thing which might come out of the ghastly divide the Referendum has caused is that people will realise that voting is important, and I hope, that we get a decent PR system put in place.

HashiAsLarry · 04/05/2017 11:36

I once worked in a building with mezzanine a and mezzanine b. B could only be accessed through a. It was a privately owned building for a private global company. Who do I blame? Confused

CopperRose · 04/05/2017 11:41

I know it's totes lolz to take the piss.

However, I am perfectly aware of the reason for the odd floor numbering (took me 20 seconds to Google whilst watching the documentary mentioned).
My post was explicitly about the misremembering which occurred in Cailleach's original post.

That is, that it was a report, and Katya Adler 'got lost'.
It was a documentary, and she didn't get lost - just pointed out the bizarreness of it.

But do feel free to carry on with amusing anecdotes about mezzanine floors.

LurkingHusband · 04/05/2017 11:42

mezzanine

sounds a bit foreign, if you ask me ...

HashiAsLarry · 04/05/2017 12:55

The EU: A Brexiteers view
Scene 572

Hidden in the depth of Verhofstadt’s inaccessible office on floor 5.5

Barnier - Have you heard some in the UK think they own a share of EU buildings?
Junker - Tell them.. Tell them we will pay… in mezzanine floors

Both throw their heads back in maniacal laughter

prettybird · 04/05/2017 13:00

I'm sorry - but I genuinely don't see what is bizarre about a mezzanine floor having an "A" nomenclature - it seems logical to me Confused - and in any case, what it has to do with the EU? ConfusedHmm

Unless it is that that the EU is too logical?! Grin That it does what it says on the tin? Wink

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 04/05/2017 13:03

Happens loads in car parks prettybird

prettybird · 04/05/2017 13:31

Dh has just made an interesting point: the announcement that a 95 year is going to take semi retirement Wink the Duke of Edinburgh is not going to carry out public engagements unless he wants to from the autumn is very convenient timing, taking TM's tantrum tirade against the EU (and the EU's justified response) and all those pointing out how ridiculous she is being, off the front pages Hmm

Coincidence? Hmm

HashiAsLarry · 04/05/2017 13:32

pretty Maybe he's going to be on our negotiation team Wink

Cailleach1 · 04/05/2017 13:33

I won't take up space on this thread any more with this I'm beginning to feel like a dog with a bone now Can't find verbatim from source, but this is someone else from a blog. Sorry Red, won't do any more. And they liked her programme overall.

"Among the many striking scenes was one where Katya was trying to find Guy Verhofstadt in the European Parliament building in Brussels. She was looking for Room looking for 5.5 C011 and got lost on Floor 5. A passing lady told her to take the lift and go up one floor. "But that's floor 6, right?" asked a puzzled Katya. No, look for "button 5.5" in the lift, replied the lady. And, lo and beyond, an incredulous Katya duly found "button 5.5" that would take her to the floor above Floor 5 - namely Floor 5.5. "If you want to get an idea of how Brussels works, try spending a few hours in here", she said. "I still can't quite get over it that".

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