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Westministenders: Its time to fire the starting gun. At our own heads.

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RedToothBrush · 15/03/2017 12:03

Its time for the suicide. The note will say simply, "The EU made us do it".

David Davies, says that despite May’s assertion that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK, that actually we don’t know this as he hasn’t got round to quantifying the impact of no deal.

He still has no answers for anything apart from “I dunno” and “I’ll do it later”. I can’t wait for when the dog ate my homework excuse.

After 9 months. That’s how far we’ve got. Brexit negotiation skills will have 18 months (not 2 years as it’ll need to be ratified). We are still hiring people for the Brexit department. What about all these EU agencies that the UK will have to replicate and hire and train up in 2 years time?

I’m still waiting for Davies to tell me what all these potential benefits he keeps going on about are too. Benefits for who exactly? Ah yes we know the answer to this one too, even if its not being said. Its political elites and elites with lots of money who can consolidate power and enslave the population through debt and desperation. Goodie. Just what I’ve always wanted. As long as I can wave my Union Jack. Oh. Shit. Bugger.

Nicola Sturgeon, has been doing a good job of showing Brexiteers exactly what they look like to Remainers by holding up the mirror of irony to the Vampires of the 19th Century State. The sight of them tripping over themselves saying its irrational to hold a ‘blind vote’ and that the economic argument is flawed is hilarious. If you are not British.

Hammond has been forced to u-turn on NIC budget announcement as it was not in the spirit of the manifesto. What happened to the manifesto pledge to the protect interests in the Single Market. Lets be honest, the New Tory Manifesto read simply: “We’ll wing it and see what we can get away with”. I wonder how many people would vote for that.

Its Brexit at all costs. No matter what. We must keep the foreigners out. Even though Davis hasn’t done an assessment on the financial impact of migration. Just think about that for a second. Actually don’t because you might actually want to shoot yourself in the head.

At best the government are still relying on Game Theory as a basis for their negotiations and the EU are already going, “Er we don’t think so”.

Perhaps this is the intention of May’s tour to build consensus. She’s handing out guns and bullets to anyone who displays rational thought, to blow their own brains out.

May’s weakness is her manner and her chip on her shoulder for the law. Her own party are not immune to it. She seems to think trade deals are not done based on goodwill. May’s weakness is Britain’s folly.

Pass the blindfolds round, and get on your knees and await our own execution by our own hands.

Bang.

RIP The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. I will remember you with nostalgic fondness but equally with bitterness and shame. Our finest hours are long since passed (and were tainted with the excesses of exploitation anyway) and we must accept this as part of the process of ‘accepting Brexit’.

Now its time for the empty hand to start being shown and the blame game to begin in earnest. The politics of hate have only just begun and the divorce has not started yet. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar are the kids we might not get custody of.

We’ll be blacking up again, running around groping women like Benny Hill and pushing people back into the closet as we hit the off switch before you know it. As well as having nice shiny new ID cards we’ll have to pay for the privilege of owning and carrying at all times, to prove we aren’t nasty illegal immigrants or those equally nasty legal ones clogging up our NHS (by working for it).

Don’t worry though. Uncle Donny will save us. If he doesn’t die suddenly after eating a bowl of Russia soup or have a fatal heart attack after accidentally falling out of a tenth story window.

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Peregrina · 17/03/2017 12:00

So is Osborne short of cash then? Or does he think that by being the Evening Standard editor he can do more damage to May e.g. be outside the tent pissing in?

missmoon · 17/03/2017 12:02

The George Osborne thing is very interesting. Remember that cozy lunchtime meeting with Nick Clegg a few weeks ago. He now has a platform to oppose Brexit and the government. I think Theresa May will be worried.

Svetlana33 · 17/03/2017 12:03

I rather think I've encountered Svetlana here before

Yes, on Brexit Arms-trigger.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 12:03

I could sign a fixed term deal for three years - it would apparently save me £0.46 a year. Yes, you read that right. What could I do with £1.38 that I save?

lalalonglegs · 17/03/2017 12:03

I am just Shock at George Osborne and trying to rationalise the thinking behind it. Does he believe he can foment more anti-TM resistance from a newspaper (albeit a not-very-good freesheet) than he can on the back benches? It does seem an extraordinary move.

prettybird · 17/03/2017 12:03

I do enjoy the reasoned contributions from Semi and Howabout even though I usually disagree with them. I have even defended them on occasion. Grin

At least they provide back-up to their opinions. Smile

missmoon · 17/03/2017 12:04

"Does he believe he can foment more anti-TM resistance from a newspaper (albeit a not-very-good freesheet) than he can on the back benches?"

It raises his profile, makes him influential, and he's still quite young (= young enough to be leader?).

lalalonglegs · 17/03/2017 12:05

And Shock at the idea you can edit a daily paper part-time. I feel sorry for the poor deputies that are the ones who will actually have to do the donkey work.

HashiAsLarry · 17/03/2017 12:06

peregrina that won't even buy you a small choc bar soon Shock

HashiAsLarry · 17/03/2017 12:10

Ps I reported the ad hominem attack on bear and kaija. God knows there's enough lies being peddled about without that being left.

Bearbehind · 17/03/2017 12:10

Nice try svetlana but I've been on MN for years and post elsewhere (admittedly much less frequently than this section)

I also try to refrain from insults.

You on the other hand pop up, bandy a few insults and cliches around each day then potter off.

I wonder who the troll really is?

Bearbehind · 17/03/2017 12:10

Thanks hashi

Kaija · 17/03/2017 12:11

I am pretty baffled by the news about Osborne. Not so much by why he would want it, but why he has been given it. What is actually going on here?

woman12345 · 17/03/2017 12:11

When we don't have little visitors, I sometimes wonder if we're on the wrong track, so reassuring that he's back.

So many lexical and syntactic 'tells'; it'd be fun to do a linguistics project on this.

Hennyway, back to business.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/17/scottish-independence-may-risks-turning-clock-back-to-bad-old-days-john-swinney
I think May has just appointed a 'Remain' coalition leader, who's brainy, popular in Europe, and US( Did you see her on Saturday Night Live?)
Wonder if Sturgeon will be at next Saturday's march?
And Heseltine?
And Clarke?
And I wonder if the government will have collapsed by then?

Looking good.

woman12345 · 17/03/2017 12:13

Ps I reported the ad hominem attack on bear and kaija
Thanks Hashi

Kaija · 17/03/2017 12:14

Thank you hashi, although really I'm always happy to see those sorts of posts stand. They are harmless enough, and I have indeed done my fair share of angry posting, particularly on Claig's Trump threads which I suspect is what Svetlana is thinking of. But I appreciate it anyway.

Mistigri · 17/03/2017 12:17

Svetlana's native language isn't English - missing definite and indefinite articles and strange word order. I'd just ignore the trolling tbh.

lalalonglegs · 17/03/2017 12:17

Kaija - there are two good-ish reasons to give it to Osborne.

(1) Evgeny Lebedev is very socially ambitious and nakedly interested in creating a place for himself in the London hierarchy - George Osborne will be seen as a good vehicle for doing this (he's courted the arts, now to get in with the political heavyweights).

(2) Even GO's worst enemies accept that he is a brilliant political operator who has a huge network of cross-party contacts who (for reasons I don't quite understand) are happy to pass him on gossip and behind-the-scenes intrigue.

As I posted a few moments ago, his deputies are going to be doing all the heavy lifting with, I expect, GO acting in a more-or-less consultant capacity saying: "Let's do a story on xxxx - you can phone such and such a person, here's his number, tell him I send my regards."

The more I think about it, the more it seems very canny.

whatwouldrondo · 17/03/2017 12:18

Svetlana I don't live far from the Surrey Hills, and miles from low quality Staines, please arrange for me to be fabulously rich and with citizenship of an EU country, it would make my future so much less Life on Mars.....

HashiAsLarry · 17/03/2017 12:20

kaija and bear I know you're more than capable of defending yourselves more than adequately. I drew the line at the accusation of being paid though along with the other complete bullshit of course Wine

Kaija · 17/03/2017 12:21

I'm inclined to disagree, mistigri, the missing articles combined with the odd Russian word thrown in sounded in my ears rather more like a hammy put-on accent. But I may be wrong.

LurkingHusband · 17/03/2017 12:21

You know when things are bitter-funny coz they're true ?

Westministenders: Its time to fire the starting gun. At our own heads.
Kaija · 17/03/2017 12:22

Thanks Lala, yes, makes sense.

Winehashi

Kaija · 17/03/2017 12:23

Lurking, quite. Brexit means blue passports and apples in pounds not kilos, then everyone's happy,

WifeofDarth · 17/03/2017 12:24

Agreed lala
isn't there also something about the Standard being a London paper, so it's a mouthpiece for/to the remainer tribe ?

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