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Westministenders: Its time to fire the starting gun. At our own heads.

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RedToothBrush · 15/03/2017 12:03

Its time for the suicide. The note will say simply, "The EU made us do it".

David Davies, says that despite May’s assertion that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK, that actually we don’t know this as he hasn’t got round to quantifying the impact of no deal.

He still has no answers for anything apart from “I dunno” and “I’ll do it later”. I can’t wait for when the dog ate my homework excuse.

After 9 months. That’s how far we’ve got. Brexit negotiation skills will have 18 months (not 2 years as it’ll need to be ratified). We are still hiring people for the Brexit department. What about all these EU agencies that the UK will have to replicate and hire and train up in 2 years time?

I’m still waiting for Davies to tell me what all these potential benefits he keeps going on about are too. Benefits for who exactly? Ah yes we know the answer to this one too, even if its not being said. Its political elites and elites with lots of money who can consolidate power and enslave the population through debt and desperation. Goodie. Just what I’ve always wanted. As long as I can wave my Union Jack. Oh. Shit. Bugger.

Nicola Sturgeon, has been doing a good job of showing Brexiteers exactly what they look like to Remainers by holding up the mirror of irony to the Vampires of the 19th Century State. The sight of them tripping over themselves saying its irrational to hold a ‘blind vote’ and that the economic argument is flawed is hilarious. If you are not British.

Hammond has been forced to u-turn on NIC budget announcement as it was not in the spirit of the manifesto. What happened to the manifesto pledge to the protect interests in the Single Market. Lets be honest, the New Tory Manifesto read simply: “We’ll wing it and see what we can get away with”. I wonder how many people would vote for that.

Its Brexit at all costs. No matter what. We must keep the foreigners out. Even though Davis hasn’t done an assessment on the financial impact of migration. Just think about that for a second. Actually don’t because you might actually want to shoot yourself in the head.

At best the government are still relying on Game Theory as a basis for their negotiations and the EU are already going, “Er we don’t think so”.

Perhaps this is the intention of May’s tour to build consensus. She’s handing out guns and bullets to anyone who displays rational thought, to blow their own brains out.

May’s weakness is her manner and her chip on her shoulder for the law. Her own party are not immune to it. She seems to think trade deals are not done based on goodwill. May’s weakness is Britain’s folly.

Pass the blindfolds round, and get on your knees and await our own execution by our own hands.

Bang.

RIP The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. I will remember you with nostalgic fondness but equally with bitterness and shame. Our finest hours are long since passed (and were tainted with the excesses of exploitation anyway) and we must accept this as part of the process of ‘accepting Brexit’.

Now its time for the empty hand to start being shown and the blame game to begin in earnest. The politics of hate have only just begun and the divorce has not started yet. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar are the kids we might not get custody of.

We’ll be blacking up again, running around groping women like Benny Hill and pushing people back into the closet as we hit the off switch before you know it. As well as having nice shiny new ID cards we’ll have to pay for the privilege of owning and carrying at all times, to prove we aren’t nasty illegal immigrants or those equally nasty legal ones clogging up our NHS (by working for it).

Don’t worry though. Uncle Donny will save us. If he doesn’t die suddenly after eating a bowl of Russia soup or have a fatal heart attack after accidentally falling out of a tenth story window.

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boredofbrexit · 17/03/2017 10:16

ditto The Guardian.

LurkingHusband · 17/03/2017 10:19

On the subject of fake news, did anyone else have a small smile to themselves at GCHQ trying to damp down the "news" that they may have bugged Trump ???

As predicted last year, fake news is like a great new toy for a while, but once the principle is established, it becomes uncontrollable.

I have no idea if GCHQ did bug Trump;. Nor does anybody else for that matter.

Speaking of the Trumpster, has anyone picked up any hints as to what he might think about Scottish independence ? Given his loose-cannon act, plus previous rhetoric, is there any chance we'd be treated to the glorious sight of him pissing on Theresa Mays chips by backing it ????

prettybird · 17/03/2017 10:29

Not sure the Scottish Government/SNP would want him back it. Hmm

He's pretty toxic - and NS made great play of stripping him of his "Global Scot" "role" last year (year before?) and of saying that he shouldn't be welcomed on a State Visit this year.

And he's also pissed off at the SG for their lack of support to his opposition of the wind farms off his golf course in Aberdeenshire. They also refused to grace him with their presence at the official opening of Trump Turnberry.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 10:29

Ha, I would like to see May's reaction if Trump backed an Independent Scotland.

LurkingHusband · 17/03/2017 10:41

And he's also pissed off at the SG for their lack of support to his opposition of the wind farms off his golf course in Aberdeenshire.

Given Trumps oft-trumpted claim to be a "businessman" first, that sounds like there's a deal to be made. Since we are already going to hell in a handcart, what's one more shady deal (thus underscoring how corrosive this is all getting.).

I reckon we're living through a delayed fin-de-siecle

boredofbrexit · 17/03/2017 10:49

I rather think that that is what your friends at the EU feel they themselves are living in.

boredofbrexit · 17/03/2017 10:52

FYI. Bit dated but no reason to imagine his held views have changed. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/31/donald-trump-second-scottish-independence-vote-would-be-crazy

LurkingHusband · 17/03/2017 10:54

TY for that.

Of course, that means nothing, really. Trump has changed his mind over many things since then. Which is perfectly OK these days. Even Theresa May is doing it.

boredofbrexit · 17/03/2017 11:09

Oh well, hope for the SNP yet then.

Just checked and even Anti(uk) Beeb comments are not supportive of a second indyref at this point in time.

And last time I checked the petition was increasing quite rapidly.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 11:12

4 by elections yesterday. 3 Conservative and 1 Labour, and the results now are - the same. I don't think you can infer anything much from the results, except that UKIP are on the wane, and something of a swing to LibDem going on.

Walton le Dale East (South Ribble) result:
CON: 49.4% (-5.1)
LAB: 36.0% (-9.4)
LDEM: 14.6% (+14.6)

Saham Toney (Breckland):
CON: 48.1% (-2.7)
LDEM: 15.1% (+15.1)
IND: 14.9% (+14.9)
UKIP: 11.5% (-20.1)
LAB: 10.3% (+10.3)

South Heaton (Newcastle upon Tyne)
LAB: 46.8% (-11.8)
GRN: 27.1% (+1.7)
LDEM: 15.9% (+11.5)
UKIP: 5.4% (-1.5)
CON: 4.9% (+0.2)

Warbreck (Blackpool) result:
CON: 54.8% (+17.5)
LAB: 35.2% (+6.3)
UKIP: 5.6% (-13.4)
LDEM: 4.3% (-2.8)

woman12345 · 17/03/2017 11:25

Thanks, peregrina, funny that Lib Dems continue to win and raise their vote everywhere, it seems, since June 23rd. But May's so high in the polls and no one wants an indy(Brexit) referendum. Hmm Grin

Svetlana33 · 17/03/2017 11:30

I hope the LibDem swing stops because they are truly a party of no politics, no aspirations (except for big salary), no real belief in anything.

The best thing that this country did was to vote to leave EU, a large Ponzi whose raison d'etre is expansionism. they want turkey and ukraine. once UK leaves properly the world will be larger for us and we will not be around the skirts of EU waiting for them to pronounce is allowed, with whom and what trade agreement "we" have with XX. that is infantilism - who wants that?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 17/03/2017 11:30

That Brexit protest vote against Osborne turned out quite lucrative for George didn't it?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/17/george-osborne-named-new-evening-standard-editor-newspaper

Kaija · 17/03/2017 11:33

"I hope the LibDem swing stops "

It may do eventually if labour gets a credible leader, but for now it's got a lot further to go.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 17/03/2017 11:36

Turkey is unlikely to join EU anytime soon.

BigChocFrenzy · 17/03/2017 11:37

If the Liberals wanted big salaries, they'd join the Tories

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 11:38

The trolls are early today.

The EEC/EC has spent at least 35 years refusing Turkey admission, so I can't believe that they 'want' its accession.

The world will be exactly the same size - give or take a bit of erosion here and there! BoJo isn't exactly doing too well trying to suck up to the ex-colonies. Davis has admitted that he hasn't got a clue. The only sensible one in May's cabinet, i.e. Hammond, has just been thrown under a bus by May.

[But why do I waste my time feeding trolls?]

Svetlana33 · 17/03/2017 11:38

About 2 months ago I saw Jeremy Corbyn in Tesco coming down escalator. I think he was coming from mobile shop upstairs. he was dressed in 1970s colours - all shades of brown and beige. you see those colours in old series such as Kojak ....... too much was brown-beige in the 70s in UK and USA.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 11:39

Is the George Osborne announcement a prelude to his leaving politics?
He can't be doing it because he needs the money.

Kaija · 17/03/2017 11:40

Yes Peregrina, but this one is at least entertaining.

Kaija · 17/03/2017 11:42

It's odd isn't it how politics is full of journalists turned politician lately. And now we have the traffic going the other way.

BigChocFrenzy · 17/03/2017 11:44

It was the UK who kept pushing for expansion

The US told their poodle to do this

It was all about strengthening NATO against Russia and using EU membership for new countries as a bribe for that.

The UK insisted the East European countries join right away. instead of waitng for them to build up their economies first, to be at more of a level with existing countries - as most of the rest of the EU then wanted.

It was the UK who kept pushing for Turkey to be allowed to join.

Bearbehind · 17/03/2017 11:45

At least you can predict the time svetlana turns up to give us more provocactive nonsense completely without substance. Must be when there's a lull in the Surrey set social scene.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 11:47

Guardian editorial from yesterday about May & Scotland.

Which one has her finger on the pulse more? My money at the moment is on Sturgeon.

Svetlana33 · 17/03/2017 11:47

I see Peregrina still trolling her propaganda ........
Tories would not accept many libdems because libdems have no political beliefs - they are neither fish nor fowl.
Even heads of Ponzis are careful who comes to them. if they accept deadbeat country, the edifice will begin to crumble much sooner.
EU took in deadbeat countries already but no more can be brought into the fold as yet. if they did not want turkey, EU would not even be considering.
turkey only useful to EU maybe because of its location, but ukraine would be the prize. the name of the EU game is to gain as much territory as possible, but not at the expense of suicide.

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