Westministenders: Brexit Britain = Gridlock Britain ?

[BigChocFrenzy]

We keep getting told the Uk can get a deal like Canada, Turkey or other non-EU countries have, without FOM.
Those deals do not provide the same privileges as EU members:
They have quotas, restrictions and must obey EU regulations

e.g. After CETA, Ron Davidson, head of international trade for the Canadian Meat Council stated:
"We do not have what we would call commercially viable access to the European market".

The deal with Turkey abolished tariffs, but did not give free acess. This is what that means:

www.ft.com/content/b4458652-f42d-11e6-8758-6876151821a6

"On a recent Saturday at the Kapikule border crossing, about 30 minutes drive from the Turkish city of Edirne, a line of trucks 4km long stretched along the highway, inching along glacially towards the Bulgarian checkpoints.
"Today is a good day", said Ibrahim Kurtukcu, a 42-year trucker who had been waiting 14 hours.
"Last week the line was 7km long".
The record is 17km. It can take up to 30 hours to get through to the other side."

Of course, UK ports (and French ports) do not have the capacity, facilities, storage space or trained staff to handle customs processing of the vast amount of British exports & imports.

Building this additional capacity - where ? - would take several years and there are no signs that even the planning stage has started.

apropos of nothing, msn.fr, and msn.it have nothing at all about Brexit or Indyref in their top 10 stories today.

Although there is a story about a smartphone that works under water ...

" They would get a big chunk of the rUK industry and financial services, and could still trade with the rUK under WTO rules." Interesting.

From Figment's LRB link:

Strikingly, in the two [parliamentary] campaigns [May] lost, she declined to take part in hustings with her Labour opponents, choosing instead to focus on canvassing the Tory vote.

So she has always preferred to play it safe and stick with the people she feels are her natural allies rather than try to change hearts and minds or even attempt to sell her outlook with a potentially unsympathetic crowd.

Strikingly, in the two [parliamentary] campaigns [May] lost, she declined to take part in hustings with her Labour opponents, choosing instead to focus on canvassing the Tory vote.

Playing to the choir, preaching to the converted or, post-fact, just the echo chamber.

Fair play to pigfucker Cameron, he had the guts to tour the country, take off his shirt and thump the tub to all the locals. I know, coz I saw him pre-2010 (he came to DS school, and DS wanted to see what the fuss was about).

However, most tellingly, in real life, the primary reason for playing to the choir is to avoid being stabbed in the back ....

Semi - now you are using the arguments against Brexit against Scotland leaving. Project Fear etc etc.

I'm really not MO4D, honestly not my intention - it was a genuine hypothetical question that popped into my head.

The biggest thing the last few days has taught me is that the only true Remoaners (sic) are English and Welsh. Because the NI and Scottish ones have said 'sunlit uplands and unicorns if we get rid of the giant dictatorial behemoth that holds us back? we're up for that. BYE!!!!'

Theresa May is planning a tour of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland in an attempt to build consensus before she triggers article 50 and embarks on the formal Brexit process, the Guardian understands
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www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/14/theresa-may-tour-the-uk-eu-effort-to-forge-brexit-consensus

ha ha ha ha

I don't suppose I'll be the only person to point this out but here goes: Theresa May has had eight months to "build consensus" on Brexit and has done fuck all about appealing to anyone except those that agree with her particular form of nilistic withdrawal from the EU. What does she think she can possibly achieve in two weeks, especially now that Scotland is agitating for a second independence referendum mainly so it can get as far away from her as politically - if not geographically - possible.

Theresa May is planning a tour of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland in an attempt to build consensus before she triggers article 50 and embarks on the formal Brexit process, the Guardian understands

So a big fuck you to 48% of England, then ?

likely to avoid legal challenge since she said she would involve the devolved nations. as well as seeing for herself how the land lies after all who can believe anything anymore

Even Sarah Smith, the BBC's Scotland editor who is emphatically not a supporter of independence said yesterday that Theresa May's visit and talk at to Scotland had not gone down well (from my persepective .....)

I hope they throw raw haggis at the deluded bint

Theresa May has had eight months to "build consensus" on Brexit

My feeling exactly - she had time to go running off to see Trump, she had time to fit in Erdogan, but where was the slog round the UK? Not necessarily by her, but by key figures in her Government? Only now when the SNP and Sinn Fein and perhaps Plaid Cymru have thrown down the gauntlet has she decided that she should do something. Too little too late. She presumably thinks that she needn't worry about England, because that is where most of her Leave votes came from. She might get a nasty shock there, when she finds that the active Remain voters haven't gone away.

Law and Policy @Lawandpolicy
There can be no serious doubt that today's speech by Theresa May was intended to include the announcement of the Article 50 notification.
Just read the speech as if it had that rousing announcement at the end.
And then read it for what it does say, ends with bit of a squib.
www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-commons-statement-on-european-council-14-march-2017

(Noting that the speech says "So a successful and competitive European market in the future will remain in our national interest. And at this Council I called for further steps to complete the single market and the digital single market." With no irony)

Wonder why she didn't do it today. Last week it was being said "as early as Tuesday"

Did May really get that caught off guard? And did she think Scotland were going to roll over just like that?

Hmm

She presumably thinks that she needn't worry about England, because that is where most of her Leave votes came from. She might get a nasty shock there, when she finds that the active Remain voters haven't gone away.

Not just that, natures clock is ticking and turning over the electorate ... 400,000 out:400,000 in (so far) ....

What was the majority again ?

Did May really get that caught off guard? And did she think Scotland were going to roll over just like that?

I'd love to say "dont be ridiculous. That is the head of our government and of course they saw it coming and had planned for it".

However, I have a sinking feeling that you are right. After all this is the same government that apparently failed to consider the possibility that the UK might actually vote for Brexit...

I would absolutely love it if the CPS decided to press ahead with charges on election expenses between now and whenever A50 is due to be triggered (why the fucking secrecy on that?). My dream: a Scottish referendum, SF refusing to power share until there is a vote on an independent NI/reunited Ireland and potential by-elections in 12 Tory seats all announced within a few days of each other. This earlier from *woman"

@MichaelLCrick Mar 12
Former Tory Chairman Grant Shapps corroborates C4 News expose of Nick Timothy's role in Sth Thanet election expenses

Michael Crick is a tenacious bugger, he won't rest until he has a RTS award justice is done.

lala yes, that would be something!

lala We can but dream.

Ahhhhh MsHoolies, we can indeed...

badders shall we set up a fund to help?

Crowdfunding!
It's the way to go 😀👍

badders, Mathsor anyone else knowlegable about Ireland:

The Jack of Kent article had a comment:
"GDP per capita in the Republic of Ireland is $61.3k and that of Northern Ireland is $23.7k on a PPP basis (the UK as a whole is about $38.9k). "

Well, the overall UK figure looks about right and I suppose NI really coukd be that abysmally low.
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However, Question: is RoI really that high GDP or have they fudged it?
Yes, I saw it is $, but more than 50% higher than the uk ??

bigchoc according to wikipedia not the best source its higher than that!