Westministers: The Lords Strike Back

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This needs no fanfare or lengthy post. Just this:

The Lords are demanding amendments unilateral protection for EU citizens.

Labour was split 358 for an amendment to 256 against.

This is after Amber Rudd had tried to reassure the Lords by writing a letter assuring peers that EU citizens would be treated with the utmost respect.

Utmost respect = an amendment to guarantee unilateral support.

Today is a good day. It should have been done in the first place.

Misti shills or not I have long thought there is a PhD in the role rhetoric, especially new rhetoric, "remoaner" "lexiteer" who thought the last one up??? etc., has played in the politics of Brexit. I think it every time my parents come out with more of it - it saves me screaming / wailing with frustration.....

Well as it seems OK to forget about the 48+% of people who voted Remain,

Theresa May might think that since she was a turncoat, that the rest of us must be too.

Ah but these are people who want parliamentary sovereignty and are complaining when they courts said parliament had to give it the ok.

Who are the people... I am not actually I respected that decision.

Brexit zero hours jobs go up:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39147135

is it name changers then ?

Well, that's the £350 million question

If one were to suggest that some of these regularly-appearing new faces are trolls or Bankster shills, that causes terrible offence and hurt feelings. Therefore they must all be longstanding MNers who have namechanged, right?

mother I'd suspect it's a bit of both. Some name changers (I'm partial to a name change myself) and some who have bought into the script so much they can't see beyond it. It would be too terrifying to think otherwise though

Therefore they must all be longstanding MNers who have namechanged, right?

It's certainly very educational, learning such a lot here! Better out than in as they say.

I've been on MN since 2001

(Misses point completely)

Very high turnout in NI, results start coming in at lunchtime.

Notices posted up at the entrance to polling stations an hour before the close of polls showed nearly 80% turnout in the Sinn Féin leader Michelle O' Neill's home patch in Mid Ulster and more than 75% in the DUP leader Arlene Foster's district of Fermanagh South Tyrone.

YER with no disrespect, you are not an immigrant and therefore have no idea what immigrants are going through.

Red with respect people moved to the uk feeling it was part of Europe. They feel like they are being made immigrants by default.

I moved to scotland feeling it was part of the uk. I would be an immigrant by default.

I face many of the same problems in scotland as my friends who are immigrants (often worse which my friend who is polish finds very strange) I do not try to claim that scottish people are xenophobes, but to say I have no idea what immigrants are going through is quite an overreach. I am very much treated like an immigrant in the area I live.
I often help my friend with letters etc. And I know that they are over the top and harshly worded. I know I will suffer the same thing if scotland leaves the uk or possibly even worse.
We recently wrote a letter of support for my husband's friends application to the home office.

I do not know what it is like to be "black" but I know what it is like to be racially abused.

I do not support racism in any form.

I do not want to be a part of an ever closer Europe and the only people I can hope will avoid financial collapse are the tories.

They were not as bonkers when I voted for them, but I am hoping once things get under way they will calm down a bit.

woman today's forecast: "hypocracy" (sic) accusations levelled at Nicola Sturgeon; howls of indignation as EU restricts visas for US travellers in tit-for-tat move.

YER you are treated as an immigrant in Scotland, being English? What utter nonsense. Racially abused?
I am just going to shout in a pillow for a bit now.

www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-britain-broke-its-taboo-blaming-immigrants-why-that-makes-brexit-harder-1609568

How we've arrived in this mess..
Much worse when it derives from ignorance and prejudice about the very foreigners Britain has to persuade to offer good Brexit terms.
Something to think about. How is prejudice affecting the way TM is dealing with the negociations....

OK Rhu go ahead

It's no joke if you are on the receiving end

Rhu...

Sympathiser?

Or denier?

If you have suffered from abused in Scotland because you are English, in the same way that an immigrant would do atm, then the UK has much bigger problems than Brexit TBH
Because this would mean that the uk doesn't exist as a country in people's heads.
In that case, I will guess that, in the next years, both NI and Scotland will take their independence and start deporting people who will be made immigrants by default.

For the sake of Britain, I really do hope this is NOT the case.