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To wonder if there are any Leave voters who actually are having second thoughts about Brexit

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Bearbehind · 17/02/2017 19:42

Following Tony Blairs call for Remainers to convince Leavers to change their mind I'm wondering if there are actually any Leavers who are worried and might prefer us not to be going in the direction we are heading.

From what I've seen Leavers are more determined than ever and really don't seem in the slightest bit concerned about any negative repercussions so they're not going to be swayed.

Who is Blair aiming his comments at?

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AYankinSpanx · 18/02/2017 02:06

I know 6 people who voted remain who now can't wait for article 50

I know 4 people who voted to leave who really regret it

I'm a Remainer. I know five people who Brexit'ed as a 'protest' who deeply regret it.

If I was a Brexiteer, I'd probably know 27 people who would definitely, definitely vote Brexit again with bells on and not a single one who would change their minds, ever.

It's that kind of thread.

As far as Blair's concerned; the message is bang on but the messenger is never going to win anyone over.

I've yet to hear from a Brexiteer who fully grasped all of the complex implications of Brexiting. And that includes half the bloody government.

kimann · 18/02/2017 02:20

Grinblair!Grin really! No. Just no. The guy is a total bellend. I know remainers who hv said they would now have voted to leave.... just as well then eh Wink - me? I'm from a country who was part of a bigger group like the EU but we voted to leave to.... we became better without them and are doing rather well. I believe the uk will be better too. Halo

PhoebeGetsIt · 18/02/2017 02:29

Hate Blair. Don't think we should have a second referendum.
I regret my leave voters because of the blatant increase in racism and how divided this has made everyone. I did not vote leave because of immigration although I know many who did and still think it's the cause of every problem we face. Now because the "leave" voters won many assume because I voted leave I share the same ideals as them.
I didn't like having people in charge of our decisions as a nation not being elected in by us, the British people. I wanted brexit to mean we can finally hold our own government responsible instead of them placing the blame on the EU. I also foolishly thought brexit would mean more money for our grossly underfunded public services with less cuts in future.
This whole thing has been one big joke. I'm also predicting a rise in UKIP votes in the general election.

Werkzallhourz · 18/02/2017 02:50

I really, really would like to hear some positive situations that have come about because of the Brexit vote.

It has made the British political elite realise that a lot of the country doesn't agree with them, and finally destroyed the illusion that Northern working class voters will stick with Labour no matter how much the party shits on them.

It's also changed the debate in other EU countries, most notably Italy and Greece, though their focus is more geared towards leaving the euro. But Brexit has given them the confidence to consider that their euro zone plight is not necessarily a hotel california scenario.

These, I think, are positive things. Had Britain voted remain, I could see the situation in Greece particularly being perceived as a permanent new reality that may have very well led to a violent uprising and then a possible junta. And then you end up with problems with Turkey again.

Personally, I think Brexit may have very well diluted what could have been an unholy EU trans-european mess further down the line. But then there's always the possibility it has created another type of unholy mess in its wake. We won't really know for another fifty years or more.

But personally, I am worried about the EU and the impact of the euro on Club Med and I am very worried about German attitudes and Club Med perceptions. It all reminds me of Thatcher's argument that unemployment in the North was the price to pay for low inflation in the South, though in this case, the polarities are reversed and we are talking about a continent of hundreds of millions rather than a country of around 55 million (at the time) .

SaudadeObama · 18/02/2017 05:57

call for Remainers to convince Leavers to change their mind

Bit late now isn't it? The rest of the world is waiting for Britain to just get the fuck on with it, suck it up and move on. Talk about flogging a dead horse.

TaliDiNozzo · 18/02/2017 06:31

I know a couple of leave voters who are now ashamed they did what they did. Another two who can't believe they fell for the lies and would now vote differently.

As others have said, Tony Blair had exactly the right message and is completely entitled to his opinion but in terms of changing public minds he's not the man to do it.

Highmaintenancefemalestuff · 18/02/2017 06:39

I voted leave and immediately regretted it. I didn't have enough information or understanding of politics. Not knowing what's going to happen unsettles me. When we do leave I will know whether I made the right decision or not.

TeaForever · 18/02/2017 06:44

I voted Remain at the eleventh hour (I had been very undecided). I'm glad I voted Remain, but feel no judgement whatsoever towards Leave voters, as I was an undecided for so long myself.
If I had ended up voting Leave, I would definitely have regretted it at first, but probably not at this stage. I still feel very angry with Tony Blair over the Iraq war, and there's a part of me that wishes I'd voted Leave just to annoy him!
He's part of the establishment, so many Leave voters protest voted against. So to be honest, by speaking out as he has, he's handed the Brexiteers a gift, and almost certainly strengthened their resolve. But that's just my opinion...

SuperBeagle · 18/02/2017 06:45

My thoughts are simply that Tony Blair should shut his miserable pie hole and get back in his box.

creampinkrose · 18/02/2017 07:25

I wonder if some of the 'leave' voters insisting they would now vote differently are saying so due to the negative public reaction from some.

Toypotpony · 18/02/2017 07:34

Definitely creampinkrose I am one of them!

I joke about it on here but in all seriousness so me of my remain friends were unbearable until I agreed that I was stupid and shouldn't have voted the way I did.

Personally I think it's not anyone's business to gaze down on me from their high horse and judge my voting intentions.

But I do need to get on with these people so nod along for an easy life.

(P.S not all my remain friends are like this, I've had some really interesting discussions with some of them. It's those sort of ones I'm forced to lie to. The ones who think I've warped in to a mini bnp supporter if I say 'actually I like what's happening and am very happy with my vote, thanks'

creampinkrose · 18/02/2017 07:54

I have just avoided the topic where possible. So many of my friends and colleagues made the assumption, inherent in many of their statements, that the 'remain' vote was the only moral one to take, that taking an alternate stance was uncomfortable.

This is why polls are inaccurate, too. I wouldn't necessarily listen to what people say they would do; it's what they actually do in a polling booth. I don't think the result would differ.

Elendon · 18/02/2017 08:03

I voted to stay in the EU. Most of the people I know who abstained or voted to leave are racist (I only know them, they are not my friends). I just wish that England and Wales would break away from the United Kingdom of GB and Northern Ireland.

Elendon · 18/02/2017 08:07

Plus I don't believe for one minute that if Remain had won the referendum, Leave voters would have accepted the decision. Those Brexiteers would certainly be loudly demanding another referendum.

TheFullMrexit · 18/02/2017 08:09

Another leave voters here, I don't regret my decision for a single moment. My leave friends don't either. We are all educated people who took into account many many factors in our descion. However a few remain friends were practically fetal on the floor shaking, you have killed my children's future have massively calmed down. And feel a bit silly actually, and angry with project fear. It was mass emotional manipulation. Let's face it the eu itself should have been able to do its own talking in terms of pr.

yorkshirepuddingandroastbeef · 18/02/2017 08:10

Out and still out.

I have a friend who voted remain and now says if she voted again it would be out.

TheFullMrexit · 18/02/2017 08:16

Yy cream. It's hard to put your own views out there when as said above your friend is directly accusing leave voters of destroying children's future Hmm. Of course it's Blair witch project himself who created this statsi environment where people felt so afraid to speak put against anything he did for fear of being labled racist. It was manic at that time. Most leavers I know regard the eu as the great white fortress, keeping people out from the rest of the world, prioritising white migration only. Some minority groups looked at the extreme far right groups active in the eu and felt it was a dangerous situation to be part of.

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent · 18/02/2017 08:27

My greatest regret is that we haven't actually started the leave process. Why are we waiting. ??

Aeroflotgirl · 18/02/2017 08:30

Nope I would vote leave all over again!

Aeroflotgirl · 18/02/2017 08:31

Actually the remoaners have really put me off voting remain anyway!

LouKout · 18/02/2017 08:33

I'm sure they have but not many will admit it.

ReleaseTheBats · 18/02/2017 08:33

I have just avoided the topic where possible. So many of my friends and colleagues made the assumption, inherent in many of their statements, that the 'remain' vote was the only moral one to take, that taking an alternate stance was uncomfortable

This is my experience too.

SuperBeagle · 18/02/2017 08:41

I love that apparently all Leave voters are racist, but the Remain spokesperson of the moment is Tony Blair...

Seems legit.

greenworm · 18/02/2017 08:42

No one wants Brexit not to happen more than me, but Tony Blair FFS! Unless he's got some legal trick up his sleeve, I think his campaign is likely to do more harm than good to its cause.

MrsMeeseeks · 18/02/2017 08:47

That 'Euro Guido' link is just embarassing. So 'Project Fear' is a dismissive term for economists and politicians predicting a recession? What makes Leave voters so confident that a recession won't happen?