To wonder if there are any Leave voters who actually are having second thoughts about Brexit

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Following Tony Blairs call for Remainers to convince Leavers to change their mind I'm wondering if there are actually any Leavers who are worried and might prefer us not to be going in the direction we are heading.

From what I've seen Leavers are more determined than ever and really don't seem in the slightest bit concerned about any negative repercussions so they're not going to be swayed.

Who is Blair aiming his comments at?

"He agreed the Human Rights Bill purely to generate never ending income for his trout of a wife."

Where to start with that.

People might have made that point, Release, but my comment was in response to the OP, which was about Leave voters. This tactic of reflecting back on the opposition seems to be a real habit at the moment. Trump supporters are still going 'Yeah, well, Hilary...' at any criticism

Well, okay, if you are interested in discussing the hypothetical scenario of a rerun referendum, but with remain voters not being given the chance to recast their votes, carry on, and perhaps just skip over the posts referring to remain voters, if they are not of interest to you.

Personally, I think discussing whether people might have changed their minds but limiting that discussion to leave voters is very odd.

As for not judging by Farage, he really isn't the only obvious racist on the Leave side, is he? I don't think all Leave voters are racist but, as has been said before, all racists were Leave voters. Or at the very least the vast majority of racists. Much of the Leave rhetoric was racist

It has been said before that all racists were leave voters, and it has been said before that that is untrue.

As I said before, I judge people by their own actions. If you want to slur leave voters with the actions of a proportion of the leave campaign, I can't stop you. It doesn't mean that voting leave was racist or that wanting to leave the EU is racist.

I know more people who voted Remain because they believed Project Fear and who would now vote Leave, than Leave voters who are having second thoughts.

Can anyone remind me of the 'Project Fear' claims? I can only remember that prices would go up. Which they have.

Voted leave, still happy invited leave and would again in a heartbeat.

However I think me (and possibly many like me) may be skewing the stats

I have mainly remain friends, and to have an easy life (dear god they brow beat me every time
they see me) I nod along and agree.

'Yes it was terrible, no I was sucked in, silly me, of course I would vote remain if we get another vote'

Then they shut up and we can get in with whatever we are doing.

Bliar can bog off. I still want out and so do most of my immediate family.

I'll take you at your word jelly

The links below set out some of Project Fear for those who have forgotten.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/05/project-fear-brexit-predictions-flawed-partisan-new-study-says/

www.ft.com/content/46a9e2ee-b488-11e6-ba85-95d1533d9a62

order-order.com/2016/10/27/project-fear-predictions-full/

I know a few people that wish they hadn't voted leave. They said it was more of a protest vote, they believed all of the promises and didn't really think it would happen anyway.
They actually said they thought it would be better for the country to leave but now they are not so sure and wish they could have the vote over again.

I find it really fucking annoying listening to them tbh, I voted remain and it's a little bit like a kick in the teeth everything time they moan about getting what they actually voted for!

I am of a mind that we have all voted and now need to make the most of it and get a plan together all this pissing about with hard/soft/whatever brexit is just unsettling everyone more, if we are getting out then let's get out, stop fannying around.
That's my very uneducated brexit rant anyway

Voted out, would do again, and again and again.

I can't wait for article 50 to be triggered, in fact I will have a party.

Blair is a rancid cowpat, who can bend over, spread his oily little cheeks and shove himself up his arsehole.....

I voted out and would do so again, all other leave voters I know would also stick to their original vote. Saying that though, majority of the remains I know would also vote remain again, only 2-3 older people I know who have since said they voted remain because their young adult children (under 30) told them they should remain, but given more thought have realised they actually sway more towards the leave campaign.

It was like being in a time warp listening. To. Tony. Blair. Again.

Much of my family voted Leave and absolutely would do so again. They're all racist though and that's the only reason they voted Leave.

The best thing about this was telling them that all they may have done is replaced immigration from white European Christians with brown Indian Hindus/Muslims as India has said , no trade deal without movement on immigration for Indians.

He lost me at 'Breggzit.'

There was a lot made of the 'oh don't listen to Farage, he hates foreigners. Brexit must be bad if he wants you to do it'.

I've got an inkling that if we compare the 'death count of foreigners' resulting from Farage or Blairs actions there may be a slight difference

But Blair is the voice of reason now so let's all forget that little oopsie.

Thanks Release. See, that's all I could find when I looked for the actual 'Project Fear' claims too; Daily Mail & Telegraph articles on how the predictions might be wrong in years to come.

The only actual changes that have happened as far as I can see is that banks are moving workers from the City, fewer EU citizens are moving to be nurses or teachers because of the uncertainty and prices have gone up. Oh, and the country is more divided than ever.

I am happy to be educated though if there have been positives that I've missed reading about. I'd really, truly like to hear some positives.

Definitely no regrets here.

The EU has shown its true colours and unreformable agenda, and I don't like or agree with them. The UK could have developed so much more positively, if it hadn't been held back by the EU whose priority is to please the lobbying corporate globalists and suppress dissent by threats or attempts at shaming those who disagree.

I'm suspicious of any regime which gets very evangelical about itself, and incredulous about one which is supposedly oh-so-concerned with "rights" yet threatens punishing treatment to a country who has freely '(and rightly) chosen to leave.

Independent nation states are the norm around the world, they are not something terrible and frightening just because they make all their own decisions and aren't hiding behind the comforting false sense of security that EU membership brings. Our country does not need a parent figure, we are an adult nation that can stand on our own feet. The EU wants us to be reliant on them so we feel we are powerless and need them, but actually we don't.

Blair is extremely disingenuous. He and his wealthy globalist cronies seek ever more power and money, not justice, tolerance and democracy which have been British values developed over centuries. Saying that millions of people voted a certain way due to stupidity is not tolerant or respectful of people who are different to yourself, it's the exact opposite.

I'm thoroughly looking forward to Britain making its way independently again, and excited by the future of our country being what we all make it. The 100 per cent of us are very varied in our views, skills, ideas, backgrounds and talents.

it's a little bit like a kick in the teeth everything time they moan about getting what they actually voted for!

On the contrary, they haven't yet got what they voted for. They voted to "Leave the European Union".

Thanks Release. See, that's all I could find when I looked for the actual 'Project Fear' claims too; Daily Mail & Telegraph articles on how the predictions might be wrong in years to come

I am so sick of people playing little word trickery games to try to prove a point.

I linked to those particular articles to kill two birds with one stone (and also tbh because I didn't want to spend much time looking for links as I didn't think your question was probably genuine).

If you really have no memory or knowledge of the Project Fear claims (hint - the remain campaign didn't call it that, you might need to adjust your google search terms) and you think the Cambridge University academics referred to in one of the links made up the Treasury reports they studied, then can I suggest you weren't paying very much attention before the referendum?

"Project Fear" just reminds me of "fake news" - an easy way to shut down any arguments your opponents make.

The real project fear was ukip and the tabloid press feeding the public the idea that what they should really be afraid of was not cuts to services or tax-dodging corporations, but those people coming into the country from elsewhere to make a better life for themselves.

Now though, I don't see how it can change. The country is divided and there are no easy answers. I hold Cameron fully accountable.

Release I'm not attempting any word trickery, I'm not clever enough.

Lots of people mention the 'Project Fear' lies. I thought they may know what these were.

I really, really would like to hear some positive situations that have come about because of the Brexit vote.

I'm suspicious of any regime which gets very evangelical about itself, and incredulous about one which is supposedly oh-so-concerned with "rights" yet threatens punishing treatment to a country who has freely '(and rightly) chosen to leave.

Huh? Leaving means you leave the good stuff as well as the bad.

I am even more pro Brexit than I was when I voted.

Have yet to meet a single Leave voter who doesn't feel the same way.

And the fact that Blair thinks differently makes me even more determined that I'm right.

I know 6 people who voted remain who now can't wait for article 50. All have told me they voted remain because they were scared of what would happen - they all now realise they had nothing to worry about and are all looking forward to the future. I don't know any brexit voters apart from me and DH and neither of us have changed our minds. Bring it on.

Voted leave and meant it.

My views and their only my views, since there was so little in it, there should have been a clause where a year later a further referendum was done. I feel there's a lot of leave voters who feel that they were sold a lie, no one really knew the implications of leaving.

I'm a remainer, yes REMAINER, no remoaner. It's a load of fuss and hassle, I honestly am astounded to say I thought DC was and is a better leader & PM than TM. Although it dismays me, the state of the Labour Party, when so many of us really like JC but his fellow staff aren't with us on that.