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Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)

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RedToothBrush · 16/02/2017 23:56

Still a week until Stoke and Copeland. (Labour Hold/Con Gain unless something strange happens) QT is from Stoke next week.

A50 hits the Lords next week. Melania is being lined up to do something for the women. (God help us all).

Will UKIP survive? Will Nuttall survive? Will Labour survive? Will Trump survive? Will CNN survive? Will the Lords survive? Will Theresa May survive a class room of children?

All these questions and more

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Badders123 · 20/02/2017 22:40

Poor milo

woman12345 · 20/02/2017 22:42

Did you see him on the Maher show? And Larry Wilmore's take down?

woman12345 · 20/02/2017 22:44

He's a pawn, it's the players we need to watch. Hoping that Trump's cholesterol and Bannon's liver help in the resistance.
What about May doing her scary eyes at the lords, wtf. Breaking protocol (not the scary eyes bit)

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 22:49

Did she think she looked scary?
She looked like a poor mans cruelly de vil

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 22:49

cruella

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 22:50

By-election updates ‏*@byelection*
#StokeOnTrent #byelection

twitter.com/byelection/status/833737178664562688

This is the official twitter account for Conservative Party By-Election Updates.

Bexit means errrr Brexit.

It was just too good to let it go without commenting.

Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)
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woman12345 · 20/02/2017 22:52

@ObsideoGB @byelection @Conservatives if he's a true Stoke man and Tory. Can he explain why the Tories have never done anything for the City

Some of the best bexit comments on this twitter feed!
Thanks red !

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 22:55

That motion of no confidence in Bercow?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/20/bid-oust-john-bercow-falters-just-five-mps-sign-motion-no-confidence/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Bid to oust John Bercow falters as just five MPs sign motion of no confidence in Commons speaker

However by last night at the end of the House of Commons' first day of business since the motion was tabled, just five Tory MPs – Mr Duddridge, Daniel Kawczynski, Alec Shelbrooke, Karl McCartney and Andrew Bridgen – had put their name to the motion, which had been expected to be backed by more than 100 MPs.

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Peregrina · 20/02/2017 22:55

Well Theresa May's arithmetic is rubbish 16 million does not equal 65 million, and now we find her spelling is rubbish too.

Bexit means Breaksit? Breakfast? Wheetabexit?

woman12345 · 20/02/2017 22:56

@ObsideoGB @byelection @Conservatives 50% of the pottery mde in Stoke goes to Europe. So that less jobs. Tories shit our pits and steelworks

@TheaDickinson @byelection @JamesDuddridge Oh Christ.
What's this? Belgian exit from EU?
Bexley exist from EU?

@byelection @Conservatives if anyone's wondering what Bexit means, I'm sure May will be only too happy to explain Bexit means Bexit. Clear?

@byelection @Conservatives Not good having your picture with your maths teacher marking your homework?

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 22:57

...and one of those 5 is my MP

The useless fucker

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 22:58

...I can feel another e mail coming on....

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 23:00

I must admit I did wonder at stoke (the potteries) voting leave when half their product goes to Europe....
I'm assuming at £20 a pop those BRITISH mugs are Emma bridgewater?
Her products are suitably twee

TatianaLarina · 20/02/2017 23:03

Daniel Kawczynski who went from FOM fan to Brexit in 2 short years.

woman12345 · 20/02/2017 23:03

Don't quite know if it's got any political legs, but today's debate on Trump was important, albeit impotent.

With the demo outside, and the vile tory sexist and arrogant speeches and some good ones from people like Lammy Halo, it might have served a galvanising purpose.

The 3 million had their ( unnoticed in the media) mass lobby, which the lords are at least trying to act on.

That and this Bercow vote may help unexpected alliances form.

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 23:15

Front page of tomorrow's Indy.

Teacher shortage at crisis point.

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/02/ukip-chair-who-resigned-blames-party-donor-arron-banks-for-angering-people/
UKIP chair who resigned blames party donor Arron Banks for ‘angering people’

Seems to paraphrase as: I was okay with what Nuttalls did but not Banks.

James Bloodworth ‏*@J*_Bloodworth
Things we've learned today: Goebbels might get a book deal with @simonschuster but they'd draw the line at Gary Glitter.

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BigChocFrenzy · 20/02/2017 23:17

woman, lala Most constitutional lawyers I've read, plus the French Attorney General (or equiv title) think that A50 can be revoked right up until the UK actually leaves the EU

BUT
the E27 would have to agree to revoking - the UK can't unilaterally do so

The Lisbon treaty is an enabling treaty and unless something is expressly excluded, then it can be agreed.
If the UK government changes its mind and wishes to withdraw A50, it is likely the EU would agree.

After invoking A50, there are 5 possible outcomes;

  1. A deal is agreed within 2 years and the UK leaves on these terms
2) A deal is not agreed after 2 years, but the EU agrees to extend the negotiation period until an agreement is reached
3) A deal is not agreed after 2 years, the EU does not agree to extend this negotiation period, and the UK just ceases to be an EU member
4) The UK decides it would rather not leave, asks the EU to agree to allow A50 to be withdrawn, and they agree, continuing as now.
5) The UK decides it would rather not leave, asks the EU to agree to allow A50 to be withdrawn, they don’t agree, and we return to options 1) – 3)

ex-LD MEP Andrew Duff
http://verfassungsblog.de/brexit-article-50-duff/

Under section 50(3):
“That Article 50 is silent on the matter of revocation does not mean that a change of direction would be illegal under EU law (as long as the CJEU were convinced that the switch was constitutional)."

European Parliamentary Research Service
Briefing: A50

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2016/577971/EPRSBRI%282016%295779711_EN.pdf

HardcoreLadyType · 20/02/2017 23:20

Was in Parliament Square today.

Me, too, Lico.

I was waving a tiny Australian flag.

I have never felt unwelcome in this country (although I was accustomed to good-natured ribbing about the rugby, or whatever) until 24 June last year, when I realised how unwelcome immigrants really are.

I wanted to show support for immigrants from EU countries, who didn't imagine a year ago that they may soon have to leave their homes in the UK. And how do I know I won't be next?

Peregrina · 20/02/2017 23:29

And how do I know I won't be next?

Because Theresa May has assured us that 'the country is open for business'? And because the Tory right wing like the 'Old Commonwealth'?

But if I were in your shoes, I would feel the same.

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 23:47

Rupert Myers ‏*@RupertMyers*
LOL to anyone who thinks this is the end of Milo's career. He'll be on Question Time within 24 months.

Not sure who that says more about Milo or the QT producers....

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Lico · 21/02/2017 00:33

Lady type:
I was with my young DD who was waving 4 huge placards: Trump, Migrants, bargaining chips etc.. She learnt about protesting. My MP, Mark Field, responding to my letter so progress on this front. In the Central Hall, I met with the founders of the 3 millions . One of the big issue is for those resudents who have lived in UK for over 20/30/40 years. The form is not really adapted for fhem because they had different lives (being older). Form is much easier for the newly EU youngsters who came in in the last ten years. They came to the UK, got a job, have 5 years'worth of P60's, bank statements and that's it. They can then proceed to British citizenship. However the older residents find it difficult to find evidence of employers back in the 1970's , 1980's together with bank statements going back to the 1970's or 1980's especially when banks no longer exist or keep records only for 10 years. The mega big problem will be pensions. Some of the older residents who have contributed all their adult lives in the UK system might be denied a UK state pension on the ground of being a EU national (rumour). These same EU nationals are not entitled to a state pension or health system in their home country because they never worked in their home country so have never contributed to their home country system. It will be a big bone of contention.

BigChocFrenzy · 21/02/2017 00:39

I don't see how anyone with the minimum number of pension contributions can legally be denied a state pension.
afaik, non-EU immigrants who have paid in are entitled to receive a pension

UK expats receive pension paid to their bank abroad, so it's not a case of avoiding pension money leaving the country

Lico · 21/02/2017 00:47

I would tend to agree with you BigChoc but these are rumours..
This would be pure theft if this did happen . To be quite honest , nothing would surprise me now.

BigChocFrenzy · 21/02/2017 00:53

New Republic: Does Trump have untreated syphilis ?

Several Republican Senators have speculated Trump is mentally ill, as have many US mental health professionals

Now Dr. Steven Beutler (30 years practicing medicine, specializing in infectious diseases) suggests it may be due to all that pussy-grabbing...

"Trump was potentially exposed to syphilis based on his own statements that he was sexually promiscuous in the 1980s, a period when syphilis cases were rapidly increasing in the U.S"

Trump bizarely boasted to Howard Stern about his 1980s promiscuity:
"It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider.”

Beutler:
“The symptoms of neurosyphilis are protean, varying widely from one individual to another. Commonly recognized symptoms include irritability, loss of ability to concentrate, delusional thinking, and grandiosity.
Memory, insight, and judgment can become impaired. Insomnia may occur.
Visual problems may develop, including the inability of pupils to react to the light.
This, along other ocular pathology, can result in photophobia, dimming of vision, and squinting. All of these things have been observed in Trump.
Dementia, headaches, gait disturbances. and patchy hair loss can also be seen in later stages of syphilis.”

https://newrepublic.com/article/140702/medical-theory-donald-trumps-bizarre-behavior?utmsource=social&utmmmedium=facebook&utmcampaign=sharebtn

Note: syphilis is treatable, but when untreated it is progressive and a nasty way to die.

Lico · 21/02/2017 01:03

Prints by Hogarth spring to mind! Riches to rags or something like that Where a rich guy lived a debauched life caught syphillis , delusions of grandeur and ended up in Bedlam!