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Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)

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RedToothBrush · 16/02/2017 23:56

Still a week until Stoke and Copeland. (Labour Hold/Con Gain unless something strange happens) QT is from Stoke next week.

A50 hits the Lords next week. Melania is being lined up to do something for the women. (God help us all).

Will UKIP survive? Will Nuttall survive? Will Labour survive? Will Trump survive? Will CNN survive? Will the Lords survive? Will Theresa May survive a class room of children?

All these questions and more

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Peregrina · 20/02/2017 21:04

– ending Tory electoral chances for a decade or more.

I do hope so - or at least the present Thatcherite and beyond incarnation of them.

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 21:06

Breitbart is facing a revolt from its journos fiction writers. Apparently half a dozen are now demanding he is fired after his comments that were seen as pro-paedo. Libertarianism seems to have its limits.

We have found the line.

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Badders123 · 20/02/2017 21:06

Never mind my ds1 picking his gcse options....I feel like I'm failing him by not training him for a hunger games scenario 😞🤔

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 21:08

Well,
Who knew!?
Racism...ok
Sexism...ok
Anti Semitism...ok
Paedophilia....hmmmm....maybe that's a bad thing?

TheElementsSong · 20/02/2017 21:10

I think we should be amazed but pleased that there is a line. If indeed it is a line.

HashiAsLarry · 20/02/2017 21:18

Person 1: wow, that's a really English surname you have
Person 2: yeah, my family emigrated during the Turnip Famine of the early 2020s

He really is an odious person isn't he?

woman12345 · 20/02/2017 21:25

Rapey fascists, vile tories, alt right coup, but please, please not the turnips, NOOoooooooooooo!

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 21:26

My Irish family is spread all over the world now.
I've travelled all over Ireland and there are vast (and beautiful) areas of mayo and the west that are utterly deserted. It's eerie. Really eerie. Long abandoned stone cottages, churches, old fields still walled, wells long dried up.
Millions died.
All it takes is to become too dependant on one thing and for your nearest neighbours to treat you with disdain.
Sound familiar?
😞

Peregrina · 20/02/2017 21:30

Millions died.

After the potato famine, which caused starvation and could have been avoided because the country was exporting wheat. The population has yet to return to what it was before the famine.

I wonder if the Tories in Westminster stop to think why a Republic of Ireland exists?

Whilst I am on the subject, I personally knew Irishmen who fought in the British Army in WW2. Something else which gets overlooked.

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 21:30

Kevin Schofield ‏*@PolhomeEditor*
Jeremy Corbyn: Media to blame for Labour poll woes

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/83493/jeremy-corbyn-media-blame-labour

FFS!!!

Matthew Holehouse @mattholehouse
UK government officials complain that Press is insufficiently critical of UK government policy. Strange days.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/20/no-deal-brexit-would-mean-6bn-in-extra-costs-for-uk-exporters?CMP=share_btn_tw
'No deal' Brexit would mean £6bn in extra costs for UK exporters

Privately, government officials are surprised there has not been more scrutiny of May’s claim to be able to swiftly negotiate a free trade deal that replicates most of the advantages of the single market without any concessions.

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Fawful · 20/02/2017 21:32

Someone needs to write a Brexit Preppers Manual in time for Christmas 2017. (Hmmm now there's an idea...)

'Make do and mend' and everyone cultivating their own food would arguably be a pretty green way forward... (I think I'm half-joking?) I come from a long line of peasants self-sufficient people. My grand-parents were paying the miller in wheat for him to turn it into flour, hardly any money changed hands. A few months ago I did start to think of how they used to live and what I can take from it. My current house doesn't have a stove or a chimney, which is no good in hard times...

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 21:32

My grandfather used to get pulled out of bed in the middle of the night by the Black and Tans.
He "only" got beaten up. Could've been worse.
He was just a farmer.

HashiAsLarry · 20/02/2017 21:38

Whilst I am on the subject, I personally knew Irishmen who fought in the British Army in WW2. Something else which gets overlooked.

YY, my great uncle is another one of those who apparently shouldn't be here despite having fought for us in WW2 Angry

woman12345 · 20/02/2017 21:39

Have you seen the Ken Loach film 'The Wind that shakes the Barley'?
Recent times, not forgotten.

Badders123 · 20/02/2017 21:44

Many of the Battle of Britain pilots were Polish and Czech

Arborea · 20/02/2017 21:49

I personally knew Irishmen who fought in the British Army in WW2

Me too. He was called Granda.

CeciledeVolanges · 20/02/2017 21:51

Sorry Hashi :( are we the same person? I feel like I share a lot of your views

prettybird · 20/02/2017 22:08

I have a Victoria plum tree from which I make loads of jam and chutney, raspberry canes for raspberry jam, a big pear tree from which we don't make anything as the pears fall from such a height that most of them aren't useable but I am sure I could rig something up if necessary, 6 raised veg beds (one for asparagus and one for bulbs/cut flowers but I could convert them if required).

Also got rosemary and thyme growing and plenty of wild strawberries.

There's also plenty of space to grow more.

I also make my own sourdough bread.

Anyone want to barter with me? I need some bread flour and sugar....Wink

Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)
lalalonglegs · 20/02/2017 22:08

Not a constitutional law expert but it makes sense that if the UK remains in the EU until the end of the two-year notice period, then we do not need permission to "rejoin" if the government changes its mind during that time

woman12345 · 20/02/2017 22:16

Thanks lala seems logical.

^Sir David Edward, a former European Court of Justice judge, Sir Francis Jacobs, the ECJ’s former Advocate General, and the EU lawyer Sir Jeremy Lever believe that the EU can’t force Britain to leave.
This means that MPs two years hence don’t have to choose between a terrible deal or no deal at all – they can also simply revoke Article 50 and go back to being full members of the EU^.

Peregrina · 20/02/2017 22:20

We will have to get rid of May, Johnson, Davis, Fox and a few more first before there can be any idea of changing 'our' minds about leaving the EU.

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 22:35

What would happen if there was a mass resignation of MPs if there was a shit deal and no prospect of a commons / public vote on the final deal?

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pinboard · 20/02/2017 22:35

I wish we COULD get rid of May, Johnson, Davis, Fox et al.
I was speaking to a friend in Mexico last night (a large family, mostly of GP's and consultants). He was saying many things about Trumps attitude to Mexico. He also said he felt May and co were not far behind, in their attitude to 'immigrants' and that she was an Appeaser.
I could only agree, and feel ashamed. Sad

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2017 22:38

Oh and Milo just lost his expensive book deal.

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